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Dear Stephenie Meyer,
First I would like to thank tu for taking the time to read my letter. It means a lot to me. In this letter, I would like to explain why I do not like the Twilight series and how it did have room for improvment.
The main problem I had with the series is how Bella and Edward's amor is shown to be ideal, when in fact, it's unhealthy. Throughout the books, we do not get any insight on their hobbies and likes/dislikes. The problem with this is that we do not know if Edward o Bella share any common interests to be considered perfect for each other. In fact, they only had four conversations before they both decided they were in love. In real life, amor does not happen that way. Yes, couples do sometimes meet randomly, but they do not immiedatly decide they are perfect for each other. Edward is also a very abusive partner. He doesn't let Bella make any decisions and often bebés her. He is inhumanly strong, so she is forced to go along with him. An example of this would be when he threatned to take her back to the car, when she clearly did not want to. He also seems to not care about her opinions which is shown in Breaking Dawn. He stated that the only reason he's letting Bella have this child is because Rosalie loves children. Doesn't Bella have opinions too? What if she still wanted the child, when Rosalie didn't? Would he listen to her? Although it's for her well-being, she gets a say because it's Bella that's having the child, not Edward. Another problem is that Edward watches Bella while she sleeps and follows her around. tu could say this is because he cares for and wants to protect her, but this is after having four conversations. This is teaching many young girls that the ideal partner will do the same for them, but in reality, those people are stalkers who are probably in jail. tu have compared Bella and Edward's relationship to be like Romeo and Juliet. Shakespeare wrote that play to mock teenage hormones and what stupid decisions they make. Which brings me to the point that Edward and Bella do not like each other for their personalities. Why does Edward like Bella? He dicho that she smells good and he's curious as to why he can't hear her thoughts. Why does Bella like Edward? In every book she describes his beauty. Never did they mention each other's characteristics that they are attracted to.
I also have a bit of a problem with how Bella treats her friends. In book one, they invite her to sit with them. Mike invites her to La Push and everyone is friendly. Bella didn't think much of it, forgetting their names the segundo they were dicho and feeling irritated. Bella dicho she didn't have many friends before, so wouldn't she be thrilled that someone is actually paying attention to her? The segundo Edward starts paying attention to her, she completley forgets about them. In book two, when he leaves, she doesn't talk, eat, her grades drop. The world ends. The only reason she decided to talk to Jessica was because Charlie told her to. She, after behaving horribly and not actuación like a good friend, expects Jessica to be there for her and blames Jessica for actuación like a horrible friend. Why would it be Jessica's fault? She was ticked off that Bella ignored her for about 4-6 months! In book three, Bella describes the graduation to be boring and irritating, when in fact, it's the proudest moment tu could ever have. She also decides to barely talk to her friends and give all her attention to Edward. I have not fallen in amor yet, but I am fully aware of that the fact that people do not ditch their friends once they have found their missing piece.
Lots of people accuse Twilight of being anti-feminist and I have to agree. Bella is incapable of doing anything and the only Valiente thing she has done is 'saving' her mother. In every book Edward is there to save her somehow. In book one, she would have died , but Edward showed up. I do give her apoyar for delaying her death, but otherwise, she is very weak. In book two, she goes through emotional problems. She, again, is able to do nothing until a Jacob helps. In book three, helps a little, but still leans on Jacob and Edward. She also doesn't make any decisions for herself. What she does for fun is cook and clean, but girls these days are independent. We have más hobbies than doing chores for our fathers.
Also, nothing troubling happens in the series. The manzana, apple on the book is representing "forbidden love." The only thing that is not possible in the relationship is that Edward is a vampire, but Bella is not. This problem is a very simple one and can get solved easily. She wants to become one, but Edward thinks it's unsafe. Through the series they face James, Volturi, Laurent, and Victoria. The Cullens are described to be very smart. In book three, they killed a new born army. Why did they make a complicated plan just to kill James? It was highly unreasonable and they put many lives at stake. James was not very powerful. It was seven against one. No one had any casualties except James. Book two, Laurent got killed easily and Jacob was not injured. The Volturi let them off. Book three, I do understand the vampiros were NOT trained, but honestly. They should/could have faced a few injuries and/or deaths (not just Jacob.) In book four, they talk it out. Yes, deaths do make many series sad and sometimes unbearable to read, but that is what makes something memorable. In real life, many people have to make sacrifices and they give their lives to something they believe in. Happy endings do exist, but a lot of stuggle is behind it.
Jacob was one of my favorito! characters. He always wanted the best for Bella and I really liked how he did seem to genuinly care about her. However, in book four, he became a pedophile. I know that tu can imprint on anyone and it would be okay, but it is very sick and twisted when a 17 año old falls in amor with a newborn. Jacob dicho he'd be an adult figure and then later, when she's old enough, he'd be a love-interest. This is another thing that breaks the law. Child grooming. Child grooming is taking care of a child as if they are your own until they become older and trust you, then actuación like a romantic interest. This child will believe tu because tu have been in their lives from since they were born. Jacob being a supernatural being does not excuse this horrible fact.
Many writers had a problem with your escritura style. tu used something a writer calls, "purple prose." This is when tu use bigger words to make the sentence seem más educated. It ruins a simple sentence and makes sentences very odd to read. Another problem is with your main character, Bella Swan. She is accused of being a mary-sue. This is a term for a perfect character. Nothing bad happens to this character, everything mean/rude they say is justified, they are beautiful and más than one person is in amor with them, they have a troubled past that they cannot forget, they have many friends, their significant other is incredibly handsome - someone who everyone lusts after, and most of the time, they have an amazing ability. Nothing bad happens to this character - Yes, Bella does go through a lot of problems with the antagonists, but these problems are solved quickly. She does not go through any inner struggle to gain happiness. Everything mean they say is justified - Bella is rude to Jessica, but Bella is shown in better light. She lashes out on Charlie, but he forgives her without an explanation. Yeah, she only gets to spend time with Edward 'till 6pm, but that's not a punishment. She went to Italy without his permissions just to save the boy who broke her corazón causing her to be in severe trauma. Unexcusable. She yells at Jacob, but Jacob is okay with it and believes he deserves it. They are beautiful and más than one person is in amor with them - Bella is described to be an average Jane. So why do Mike, Tyler, Eric, Jacob, and Edward all amor her? In Midnight Sun he even dicho that every guy was having fantasies about her. Why do so many people amor her when she is nothing special? She sounds very annoying when she respuestas 'modestly' that she is not beautiful. Why didn't she pick Mike? He was nice to her and supported her. He was worried because Edward was very creepy and anti-social. Why didn't she pick Eric? She described him looking like someone from the chess club. (See? She judges on appearance.) What about Tyler? Okay, so he did almost kill her, but she dicho it was okay. What was wrong with him? He almost killed her! Maybe that's why he didn't leave her back. He wanted to make sure it didn't happen again. No one can forget almost killing someone. They have a troubled past that they cannot forget - Bella was an outcast and she never really had the money. Her mother also is in amor with a guy that Bella doesn't really approve of. Since she was little, she visited Charlie which she described as being a horrible experience. They have many friends - she instantly had many friends from the día she arrived. Almost everyone was thinking about her. tu could say this is because Forks is a small town, but I live in a small town too. Whenever someone new comes (which rarely happens) none of us have open arms. We are all teenagers and have our cliques. We don't like newcomers just barging in. Their significant other is incredibly handsome - someone who everyone lusts after - everyone thinks Edward is very cute, whether they openly admit it o not. They have an amazing ability - Bella is able to control her blood-lust from día one. She always felt giddy when she saw blood, so why is that her ability? She also has the most powerful power, being able to shield everyone mentally. Why does she have a más powerful one? The Volturi are the people who keep everything in control, shouldn't they be the más powerful ones?
Many plot holes can be found too. How is Nessie alive? Shouldn't she be dead since she would want to suck out her own blood? Why can't Leah imprint? Why is the time of the mes considered okay and 'dead blood.' Blood is blood, unless it is dried up. How can Bella get pregant if Edward's body only has venom and he is extrememly cold? On cloudy days, the sun still streams though (otherwise we'd be facing darkness) - so why do they not sparkle then? The sun can't hit something directly otherwise things would be burning everywhere. Sparkly vampires?
Your vampiros are also differant - this could be counted as creativity. Mythology states them being blood-thirsty, deep, mysterious, sexy, seductive, dangerous .. etc. They do not feel which is why they don't feel much remorse after killing people. That is what makes them very scary, however your vampiros have powers, sparkle, have the ability to love, are veggiterians (which I found wrong because animales aren't thrown in the wild just for eating) etc .. Many differences.
I would like to apologize if this hurt your feelings; for that is not what I was intending to do. I wanted to state the things I and many other people did not like in your series. Contructive criticism is always helpful. Thank tu for your time,

Draco Luver (not my real name! lol)
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posted by hpotterforever7
Ok, well I'm going to be perfectly respectful in this articulo because I don't want to make anyone mad, I just want to make a point. If tu agree o disagree with it, that's up to you. Please don't be rude inthe comentario section, and give reasons for opinions. Thanks!

Now I can start. May I just start por saying that I am on the Harry Potter side (with all due respect to Twilight fans)

I've noticed that one of the things Twilight fans say is that Bella is a más relatable character than Harry. I think that that is a good point because technically, tu can be a normal teenager who goes to school...
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posted by LavenderBrown
Some people (not necessarily Americans) have admitted having trouble with the British words in Harry Potter. To solve this problem, I give you...An Americans Guide to British words!

1) Prat
Someone who is described as being dumb o self centered. Usually acts against logic.
e.x. Jeez, Roldolfo is such a prat!

2) Git
Basically, a jerk. Shallow and/or childish.
e.x. Look at that git, strutting around like he owns the place!

3) Err...
The British equivalent of umm...
e.x. "Errr.... is it 42?"

4) Barmy
Insane/Crazy.
e.x. That old mans gone barmy!

5.) Blast
Equivalent to "Dang!"
e.x. Blast! Some git's taken...
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posted by SpeedyGonzalez
I Speedy Gonzalez did not write this I merely copied and pasted it. The original may be found link.

I got Breaking Dawn on the día that it came out and was hoping that Meyer would somehow redeem the steadily deteriorating quality of the Twilight series. What a huge disappointment. I was even más disappointed when I found out how Meyer was responding to the criticism towards it. Then I discovered that she was escritura Midnight Sun. I looked adelante, hacia adelante to that because, even though all of the libros suck, they are a guilty pleasure and Twilight was the best of all of them. Then she stopped writing...
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posted by lilcherrywine
Dear friends,
This is my first attempt at escritura a creative article. I've attempted the facebook page of HP, and hope tu like it. Sorry for the lame humor, it's my very first time. Thanks for reading, and please drop in your comments, because I need your opinion. Thanks again.


HP’S fb page


HARRY POTTER

Went to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
Lives in London.
Knows English, Parseltongue
From Godric’s Hollow
Born on July 31, 1880




Cho Chang: Harry, I had a trip with dad and mom to Forks last week and I spotted Cedric there. Yes, Harry, I saw him. I don’t know what’s happening, I mean,...
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Now to anyone of the teensy-beensy minority that has never heard of Twilight's male protagonist, Edward Cullen, he supposedly a vampire that falls in deep "love" with a human girl named Bella.

Now I must object to this descripción of the Edward and Bella (Edella o Bedward, lol). While the relationship is described as being true love, I personally think that the relationship is any BUT deep, true love. It is, in my, along with many other fanpoppers, opinion that this relationship is extraordinarily unhealthy and codependent, and that Edward's supposed "love" is obsessive love.

Obsessive love:...
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posted by PotterLambert93
Today, I read a post from "youknowit101" on "1000 Reason why Twilight is better than harry Potter", and it completley gave me segundo thoughts about this whole thing between the rival series. According to this guy, he is very ashamed at the HP fans for attacking the Twilight fans and how immature they are, and to be honest, I now couldn't agree more. He's right, HP fans, we are the immature ones, not the Twilighters. We Potterheads are taking HP for granted and using it to rub it in other people's faces.

Now I see why Twilight fans barley respond to the debates and articles, and it's because...
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posted by sy-sy
why deos twilight annoy me? because when twilight came out everyone 4 got hp then the new hp movie came out and they loved hp again thgen twilight movie came out people just cant make up their minds well i can ive seen all the hp movie so far and twilight and even though hp leave s out some stuff its still TEN times better twilight is annoying becuz they think they can come in and steal the whole mostrar that why oppion of a hpfan gcsfdsjhvcdshvcwrivhrweuvghbersvksfdhvsklvhjsdfvklsdfvb dfc bvhdx jkhdfvoperfcujrehvcjfdvhhhjukdsxhcdsjcv
Okay, so a lot of people have been asking that I put más debate stuff and reasons why I think Twilight is better. Now that we're all friends and don't hate eachother anymore, I hope we can all have a reasonable debate.

But before I start, I want to say that I don't compleatley hate Harry Potter anymore. I saw the Deathly Hallows today, my friend is somewhat of a fan, and wanted to see it. I reluctaintly went with her, and it actually wasn't that bad. tu see, I read the first-fourth Harry Potter books, and read most of the seventh. The Deathly Hallows movie was much better than the book in...
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Hello everyone!

I'm planning on escritura a letter to Stephenie Meyer regarding the Twilight series. I wanted to address all the points many people do not like in the series. The letter is going to be friendly and straight-forward. I wanted to hear what everyone would want me to include. These are a few of the topics I am going to be including:

- Anti-feminism
- Abusive relationship
- Unhealthy obsession
- Lust does not equal amor
- Bella is horribly rude to her friends (not valued friendships)

These are just a few. Please add anything and if there is something specific you'd like me to add.

I'll be working on this letter and posting on Sunday on Fanpop, so I can add anything else and have your approval and then I will send it to her.
I understand that Seth probably won't let it get to her, but it's worth a shot and I will post his reply (assuming he does reply.)

Thank you! :)
posted by Kassaremidylynn
I wrote this a while hace for my English class. We had to write about something we felt strongly about, and I feel very strongly about this, so...

Many people think that I would be an avid Twilight lover and a hater of the Harry Potter libros after their first impression. What they see may seem to point to that: I’m a fifteen año old girl who devours books, is a self-proclaimed hopeless romantic, loves all things vampire related, and I wear a ton of black. In reality, this couldn’t be far from the truth. It is actually the complete opposite. I absolutely despise anything Twilight related...
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posted by GemonkDruid
A/N: I just thought it would be an interesting subject, tu know? And before tu do anything, just to let tu know, I FAIL at characterisation. So don't go all batshit on me if I get Hermione o anyone else wrong, 'kay?

Today, on the 17th of October, the court session for the famous "Meyer Case" was initiated. Stephenie Meyer, founder of Twilight, inc., the billion-dollar advertising company, was arrested on several charges, including: allegations of fraud charged por worldwide companies Feminism, inc., 3D pwns 2D, and Literature n Books; the murder of various brain cells; abuse and rape of thesarus,...
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posted by emilykuru
Fanfiction:

edward-bella vs harry-ginny

Edward and bella go to a railway station during one rainy día in london. They meet harry and ginny there,

( bella is not changed into a vampire yet )

Edward: bella love, close your eyes please!

Bella: why edward?

(thinks to himself)

Edward : just yesterday I had promised her that she was the prettiest one I have ever seen, but here here is ginny who looks so pretty.
And bella should better stay away from harry, o she will ditch me like jake..

( meanwhile harry is using legilimence when edward is busy thinking )

Harry: well, why am I going to eye a crackpot...
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There once was this girl named Bri, who had a best friend (for this article, we'll call her Z). Bri and Z had identical taste in books. So, when Z gave Bri Twilight for navidad and told her how “great” it was and kept going on and on. She tried to convince Bri that it was better than Harry Potter (the book Bri had been obsessed with since she was nine) but Bri didn't believe that at all. Still, if Z liked it, then Bri knew she would like it. She had no hesitation when she cracked the binding. She was hooked.

Now, this was before Twilight grew to be psychotically massive, so when Bri came...
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