girls generation/snsd Article: "Indestructible" canto positions, the new main vocal Tiffany and how unfair SM was to Hyoyeon

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"Indestructible" canto positions, the new main vocal Tiffany and how unfair SM was to Hyoyeon

posted by pretty_angel92

Even though Hyo isn't my bias, i feel like the japanese producers treat her even worse than the korean producers, when it comes to lines

I know Hyoyeon might not be the best singer, but she sure improved. i even think she's better than Yuri and Yoona now, especially on live performances. she's also way más capable than what we hear from her lately.
because when i compare her latest lines with her oldest ones....GOOD LORD. she used to do so much más with her voice back then.

Another thing besides the lack of Hyoyeon is the thousands and thousands of lines that Tiffany has in this song
and oh, believe me, i always defend Tiffany, i amor her very much and she's my 4th favorito! member. i'm so tired of seeing people hating her, especially on this club
but this time? i can't be por her side. i simply can't. i know it's not her fault that the producers give her so many lines and i sure know Tiffany improved her voice tremendously....but THIS IS TOO MUCH. TOO FREAKIN' MUCH. this song is like Tiffany feat snsd.

Anyway, the official lyrics aren't even out yet and of course i might get some things wrong, because some of the members' voices are quite similar sometimes....

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The song starts at 0:40

And this is what i hear, after listening to this song on repeat

0:42-Tiffany
0:54-Seohyun
0:59-Yuri
1:04-Tiffany
1:09-Yoona
1:14-Tiffany
1:17-Sooyoung
1:19-Tiffany
1:22-Sunny

before the first chorus, Tiffany already sang FOUR TIMES. FOUR

First chorus
1:30-Taeyeon
1:37-Sunny
1:44-Jessica

1:52-Tiffany
1:54-Taeyeon
2:00-Sooyoung
2:06-HYOYEON
2:10-Yuri
2:16-Sunny
2:20- This is either Yoona o Seohyun
2:23-Jessica
2:26- Again, it's either Yoona o Seohyun
2:29-Taeyeon

segundo chorus
2:37-Tiffany
2:44- This might be Sooyoung
2:51-Seohyun

Bridge
2:57-Sooyoung
3:02-Tiffany
3:05-Sunny
3:08-Seohyun
3:11-Taeyeon

Third chorus
3:16-Jessica
3:26-Sunny
3:34-Seohyun

x2
3:41-Taeyeon
3:48- This might be Sooyoung
3:56-Jessica
3:58-Tiffany

So, let's resume....
Hyoyeon has 1 freakin' line
Yoona might have 3
Yuri has 2
Jessica has only 4
Sooyoung might have 5
Sunny has 5
Seohyun might have 6
Taeyeon has 5
Tiffany has 8

Unless there's some shared lines in the chorus (which i think there is. maybe similar to AMLIFY, ), i don't think there's any hope for Hyoyeon to have at least a segundo line.

This is beyond ridiculous

While i do enjoy the treatment Sooyoung is getting since last año (having much más lines), there's other things that made me cringe in this song

-Too much Tiffany
-Lack of Hyoyeon
-Less lines for Taeyeon, who's the main vocal

And let me remind tu that these ARE NOT THE DEFINITE canto POSITIONS. I'm sure i have some things wrong (even if they're minimal)

Still...we can see the huge difference between each member

I made this article, because this honestly really pissed me off. there's some japanese songs where Hyoyeon has más than 2 lines, but it's pretty rare. Most of the time it's just this miserable thing with less than 5 seconds.

Well, nothing can be worse than her misceláneo "flash" in "Gossip girls", though.

So yeah, i really do hope there's some shared lines in the chorus, because.....man, i don't even know what to say. i think the producer was on drugs o something, when he decided the canto positions for each member

Right now, i'm patiently waiting for the MV o a fancam of the live performance..because i want to be surprised in the end.

But if i'm not..then fuck tu SM. Hyoyeon deserves so much más than this.

Thank tu so much for reading...

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DaniMF @Syltre How would you explain Mr Mr album and Love&Peace, 2 albums of different styles. It's more like they want to show Tiffany's potential.

snsdlover4ever @Gretulee Really now? Polls are polls for a reason. To know the best and to know the worst. If you don't like it, don't comment, especially in this article. Since we're stating our opinions about your ultimate bias having more lines than everyone else, you can't accept it. Frankly, I love my bias, but I couldn't care less about her when it comes to this stuff. If it was her in Tiffany's position (which I doubt will) then I'd still see that as unfair, even if she's my ultimate female kpop bias. And plus, the topics in polls are not all that positive, yes, but it's better than all the "who's the prettiest" stuff, because now that I think about it, it's kinda shallow that we're talking about looks in a song when we're supposed to be focused on the singing. {Everyone is guilty of doing one of those polls, even me, so I'm not referring to anyone here.}

BlackPearlLuver Honestly, I feel more bad for Yuri and Sunny than Hyoyeon. She's known for her dancing and a lot of people label her as the best dancer in kpop. Hyo knows she dances great and she's confident in it. I don't see a reason to feel pity for her if she's popular doing what she's best in. Sunny and Yuri are the least popular and no one praises them that much... But Hyoyeon definetley deserves more lines and screen time I think....

Gretulee @snsdlover4ever, it was same with Mr.Mr. ehh...Don't you think I would be the same if Jessica or someone else would get most lines? I mean it's not my fault that occured so, that especially Tiffany (my bias was choosen to get most lines). If it would be someone else I would react the same. I don't care who gets most lines, from best singers, because they sing really good. If someone like Yoona/Yuri/Hyo would get most, then, probably I would complain. It's a pity, they couldn't get Hyo at least 3 seconds more, but what we can do about this, now? It's something, SONES, should have been come to terms with this, already, since it was like this many times. There are many polls without reason, btw. They were created just because someone wanted to make something in this club, and it's kinda obvious.

pretty_angel92 Gretulee i think i confused you a bit...i still love Tiffany very much but i'm just annoyed with the fact that she has so many lines in this song. so no, i don't hate Fany and never will xD i never said Hyoyeon should have that many lines. but at least 2 would be enough. if Yuri and Yoona have them, why not Hyo? well, i find articles in this club, way more stupid than this one, tbh xD and btw i love the song. i think it's one of their best ballads, tbh

pretty_angel92 kpop4everlover glad you agree with me

pretty_angel92 BlackPearlLuver i think Yuri has a much more pleasant voice tone than Hyo but i disagree when you say Hyo is often out of tune..because tbh, so is Yuri =S but this is just my opinion but the problem is that Tiffany is been getting lots and lots of lines since 2013 started. shouldn't every year be different for each member to shine? as i said before, i'm not sure if Sooyoung has 5 lines. i'm sure about 3 of her lines but not the other 2 (in the chorus). so you can't assume she's singing more than Jessica but even if she sings more than Jessica, it's not like it never happened before. there's some snsd songs in which Sooyoung has more lines than the lead vocalists so i'm surprised people are only noticing that now when it already happens for a couple of years. the difference between Sooyoung getting many lines and Tiffany getting many lines is that Fany always had many lines ever since snsd debuted. while Sooyoung...absolutely not. so i think it's fair for Sooyoung to get these lines especially in their japanese songs because she's the only fluent in that language. i think Sooyoung deserves this chance because she never had that chance before.

pretty_angel92 snsdlover4ever well, Jessica is also pretty bad at japanese. but about Fany vs Hyo......it's understandable, Fany is a lead, Hyo is a sub. my problem is that i think at least one of Fany's lines should've been given to Hyo. it wouldn't hurt anyone, am i right? and i'm glad you support Sooyoung i always support Fany in every way i can but when i heard this song i just couldn't support the number of lines she got. it was too much =S

pretty_angel92 sandra311 thank you for understanding

Gretulee well I like Yoona's and Yuri's voice more than Hyo, so for me it would be good even if she will have 1 line, but at least longer than now. Like in AMLIFY Yoona only have 1 line, too. And it's only 3 words, but no one have ever complained about it. Well yeah, there are many ridiculous articles.

pretty_angel92 DaniMF tbh i didn't talk about Jessica's lack of lines because this is like....one of the rare songs where she doesn't get as much. people always complain that Sica is singing less and less but i disagree, she still gets many lines in their songs. this one was a really rare exception let's be clear about one thing, Yoona will always get free lines for being the visual. sad, but true. as for Yuri, she's getting less, tbh but at least she still sings more than Hyo. i'm happy for Sooyoung too of course

pretty_angel92 Gretulee nope. Yoona got 3 lines, actually. Yuri got 3 too. HyoSoo got 2 search for the correct colorcoding =)

pretty_angel92 Syltre there's no secret that TTS is now SM's priority. especially TaeNy

pretty_angel92 BlackPearlLuver but there's the sad part.....Hyoyeon doesn't show her dancing anymore. she doesn't even have dance solos, like the ones in ITNW and Genie. or Paparazzi if the still had dance solos, i wouldn't mind the lack of lines. because her dancing makes up for it

Gretulee She sings only one alone.So for me it's basically only 1 line/ 3 words. Like some other members, too.

pretty_angel92 ^ yeah better than HyoSoo in that song,. they needed to share both of their lines. ridiculous

Syltre @pretty_angel92 Yeah I know, but i've only been a sone for about half a year so I'm getting caught up.

express7989 I understand why Tiffany gets more lines than Hyoyeon but i don't think Yoona deserves to have more singing lines and parts than Hyoyeon. Maybe because Yoona is the face and the visual? Hyoyeon might not be better than Yuri but she is still better than Yoona. Even though other fans deny it, we all know that Hyoyeon can sing. I hope someday, Hyoyeon will have more singing lines :D ~~

Syltre @DaniMF Yeah, most likely they're just trying to show her potential. I guess SM is just really biased in this case.

snsd_hyo sometimes, i feel like when Hyoyeon starts to gain the attention especially from the new wallpapers, SM will drag her down back... :(

nacchiee [i]it's so hot in here~ lol[/i]

pretty_angel92 express7989 yeah, like i said before, Yoona gets free lines for being the visual. it happens a lot in other kpop groups she's the second dancer with the most lines, especially in their japanese songs

pretty_angel92 snsd_hyo i feel the same way

DaniMF I think that SM should change their standars, move Tiffany to main vocal and Sooyoung to lead. Like that way they would be 3/3/3, and they would share their lanes with some(any at least) order.

pretty_angel92 tbh, i think Sooyoung is already a lead, in Japan even in Korea, she isn't even promoted as a dancer anymore. SM is promoting her more as a singer. and i'm sure Fany is already a main vocal, at this point. but we'll see what the future reserves