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As asteriamalfoy recently reported on the club wall, it appears that Moana will soon become the newest member of the disney Princess lineup. The club's reception to the news is a mixed bag, which is the latest example of how the general fanpop opinion (namely, this club's opinion) doesn't always match that of the internet. It's interesting why that is, and I will attempt to find the reason here.

Before going forward, be aware that everything that I consider an "opinion" of fanpop and/or the internet is a generalization. True, there are some users on both this website and the rest of the worldwide web who are in their respective minorities. This is merely a breakdown of how I see it and my attempt to get to the root of the issue -- why is Moana beloved in some places, but not in others? Time to find out.

The Difference of Opinion
I find that on Youtube, Disney-related sites (such as "Oh My Disney"), and other sites (Buzzfeed and the like), Moana is a well-liked character. The common reasons people like her from what I've seen are:

• She's responsible; even though she wants to explore the ocean, she does what's right and chooses to lead her people. And she enjoys it, too!
• She's self-reliant; she doesn't need to be constantly saved, and she can save the día pretty much on her own.
• On a related note, she "doesn't need a man."
• On a separate related note, she's quick-thinking and resourceful, o what some people call "badass."
• She doesn't have the traditional look of a disney Princess, i.e. no formal vestido and different body type. This gives her a new and perhaps más realistic look.
• She renounces the princess name.



Then tu check out the DP club on Fanpop, and tu find that generally, Moana is not particularly loved, for reasons including:

• She has little to no flaws.
• She doesn't have much of a personality.
• She's just a mish-mash of the princesses who came before her -- nothing new.
• She renounces the princess name.

That's quite a contrast in opinion, and maybe a little surprising that a place dedicated to the DPs generally doesn't take too kindly to her. I think I've discovered why this contrast exists, though.

The fuente of the Difference
Perhaps this contrast is because people that tu find elsewhere on the internet have a different set of character traits/qualities that they value than the ones on this club. From what I understand, the general internet crowd values disney Princesses and heroines who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are strong and can work independently
• Are determined and don't give up
• Are admirable

On this club, I think we have a different set of values for DPs. We like those who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are realistic and/or relatable
• Stand for something positive regarding princess-hood, femininity, etc. without feeling forced o too "in your face"
• Respect the DP franchise

Regarding the first bullet point -- I believe both sides like it when a princess/heroine adds something to the lineup, but it is seen in different ways. The internet seems to like how Moana invokes new positive qualities such as the desire and willingness to lead, which, let's be honest, hasn't been done with a DP before, at least not explicitly. I theorize that users on this club, including myself, consider all of the positive qualities of the character and how those stack up against the existing DPs, not just the new ones. For example, action-packed (Rapunzel), self-doubt (Pocahontas, Mulan), determined (Ariel), outspoken (Merida), and funny (Rapunzel, Anna) are all traits that we've seen in other princesses and heroines. The number of familiar traits can make the actual new traits seem like not enough.

However, I think the above argument is only a tiny part of why the fanpop opinion is más critical. The remaining bullet points are key. As stated, Moana does mostrar a desire and willingness to lead her people, which would fit the desired element of saying something positive about princess-hood (er, leader-hood, o how about just leadership). Is it in your face? I'm going to lean towards "no," but -- now I'm going to bring my own opinion into the mix -- it's one of the reasons I have difficulty latching onto her character. Despite Moana having this very positive quality going for her, she doesn't feel realistic to me. Her turn-around from wanting to sail the seas to being perfectly content staying and leading is just too sudden. With few flaws to balance it out, she comes across as a little too perfect to me. Perhaps this lack of realism and relatability is what others dislike, too.

It's often dicho that a strong character is one who works through their flaws; ergo, a strong female character is one who works through her flaws. Moana might have flaws, but maybe they don't get the focus they need to make us think, "Oh yeah, she overcame that flaw, achieved her goals, and learned something from this adventure." If that's the case, then the positive femininity thing doesn't really work. It's almost too positive, o impossibly positive. We need something más convincing if the takeaway is that a girl/lady/woman can achieve great things.



The biggest issue that Fanpoppers have with Moana comes from this line: "First off, I'm not a princess. I'm the daughter of the chief." This statement has not been well-received because for some, it implies that Moana is disrespecting the disney Princess name. I shared that opinion too at one point. It may just be disney poking fun at itself, but it can rub fans the wrong way. If this character who seemingly fits the DP mold can't appreciate the leading ladies who came before her...well, how the heck are we supposed to like her? Contrast this with the general internet's opinion, where people take it to mean that Moana doesn't have to be bogged down por the título of princess; one can be a strong character without having a royal título o other high status. Or, maybe people like it because it detaches her from the princess stereotype that they can't stand.

The más I think about it, the más I think that line is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it can be perceived as, "Oh yeah, tu don't need to be a princess to save the día o to be someone important o worthwhile." On the other hand, one can perceive it as Moana being better than a princess, which can be taken as "Oh, tu think you're better than the disney Princesses, is that right?" o "Yeah, the princess título is just that -- a title. Not all heroines have to be princesses." Well, maybe there's a better message here. Instead of having your character say they're not a princess, why not embrace their princess-ness (or the equivalent -- daughter of a chief would be an equivalent), and then mostrar us that dicho character is a good, strong character? You'd be broadening your own definition of princesses to mean any good-natured, strong-willed female, which is exactly what the DP franchise is trying to do now with their reciente videos and slogan. Then, all of the princesses can be seen in a new and positive light.



Conclusions
Not to be too redundant, but I do believe that Moana's reception here versus on the rest of the internet boils down to what people want and like to see in disney heroines, as well as how they interpret certain aspects of the character (or lines of dialogue, as discussed above). I think this is also the reason why fans can have such opposing vistas on other characters, like Ariel o Elsa. It can also be why some characters are sometimes seen favorably here, like the early princesses, but not much elsewhere. It all has to do with the specific set of traits we value. Moana's prospective introduction to the lineup brought this...for lack of a better term, "issue," to the spotlight, for me at least. Perhaps discussions like these will change some perceptions of characters for the better, even if just slightly, if people recognize the exact qualities that are being valued por other fans.
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Hi everyone! This is my first articulo on my new account. It's your standard favorito! princess article, but I figured it's always easy to read. Ehhh...I'd rather not argue about a totally opinionated articulo but I'm totally open to any preguntas tu have about any of the lazy points I made... Oh, Anna and Elsa aren't included because I don't think they'll ever be official DPs, but I included where they'd be at the end of the article. Oh and sorry for the lack of pictures...but tu know...I'm too lazy. Sorry.But anyway,enjoy!!

11) Pocahontas
The only princess I kind of mildly dislike. Why? In one...
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posted by WinterSpirit809
So I had an idea pop into my head and I had to write an article. So, there are so many things; looks, intelligence and personality, so I've decided to make an articulo for each princesses, about where they are placed on each of my rankings.

I've decided to go newest to oldest, and since when people go oldest to newest people place Anna before Elsa, I'm doing Elsa first.
DISCLAIMER: THIS IS AN OPINION ARTICLE! THIS IS NOT MEANT TO OFFEND!

Let's start with the shallowest and work our way up, shall we?

Voice Actress (Idina Menzel)- 10

Now, I'm not counting canto for this particular ranking, because...
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 View from Lidingö over to Stockholm, picture taken por me
View from Lidingö over to Stockholm, picture taken by me
I've written several getting to know me articles, but I felt like it was time to write an updated article, hope you'll like it

I don't really have a good reason to why I chose my username, it just was the first one that came into my mind (but I've been on fanpop for nearly 5 years so that might explain), but 94 is the last two numbers of the año I was borned (1994) and I just thought sweetie was a lovely word

My real name is Teresa, I have no idea what it really means, but one time I got to know that it means huntress in latin. I was borned September 16th 1994 so I'm 20 years old, I'm a Virgo...
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I'm finally bringing this back!

Snow White began to walk away.

I don't want anything to do with that girl anyway.

Even as Snow White was walking away, she continued to hear the crying. In fact, it sounded louder than before.

I better go see if that girl is still upset. Snow White thought.

When she got what she thought was close to the crying, it turned into full on screaming. She didn't know what to do.

In the end, she ended up calling the police.

When the police came, Snow White led them to the screaming, but when they got close, the screaming stopped. There was no one there.

"Are tu trying...
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 Today I'll focus on why I amor Rapunzel
Today I'll focus on why I love Rapunzel
Today it's 3 days until my birthday and today I'll focus on my 3rd favorito! DP Rapunzel and why I amor her
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Even though Rapunzel isn't my favorito! DP I still amor her so much

I amor how creative she is, when she's alone in the tower she has so many activities to do like painting, baking etc.

I amor how unsure she is before leaving the tower, I can relate to that as I also have a hard time sometimes doing things that are hard o challenging o something brave, but in the end I usually end up doing them and I feel happy about...
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Tiana returned home, very depressed. She didn't want to tell her mother she was fired from her job, but she would have to explain it eventually. This 'Snow White' had ruined her life, and she was very upset.

Why? Why does she hate me? What could she gain from getting me fired?

After walking near home, she saw someone in the street. She walked closer, trying to see who it was. It was Snow White.

"What are tu doing out on the street?" Tiana asked.

"Why do I need to answer that?" Snow White replied.

"Just answer me."

"Quit it. I don't have to answer anything tu say."

Tiana stared for a second.

Wow,...
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posted by sweetie-94
 Today I'll talk about why I amor jazmín
Today I'll talk about why I love Jasmine
Today it's 12 days left until my birthday and that means that today I'll focus on my 12th favorito! DP Jasmine
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Anyway jazmín is one of my least favorito! disney Princesses, but I still amor her

I amor that she doesn't want to marry someone just because he has a lot of money o because he's a prince, she wants to marry for love

I also amor that she longs for freedom outside of the palace walls and how she doesn't want to be a princess

I also amor how adventurous she is, she wasn't afraid to go on a magic carpet ride with Aladdin, I also amor that she's smart, she's...
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I thought I'd do this one next. Anyways, keep in mind that this is my opinion, and we may disagree, so respect my opinion and I'll respect yours.

Enjoy the article! :)



When Will My Life Begin?
I don't care if people say it's unmemorable, I absolutely amor it, and it's my favorito! song from the movie. I amor Mandy Moore's voice, and it's one of my favorito! disney Princess voices. I also enjoy the tone of the song, and think it's quite lovely. I don't really like the ending too much though. I still amor the song though.



Mother Knows Best
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Hi! I'm @arendelle, aka Ariana, and this is my get to know me article.

I'm a huge fan of Disney/Broadway, without a doubt. I'm going to see Wicked (sometime in early December, tickets aren't on sale until September), and Phantom of the Opera (January 11th). The first ever play I saw was Beauty And The Beast, and I got to meet Belle. (I was really excited when I did meet her as a child).

So I see people make a lista of their favorito! disney Princesses, so I guess I'll make mine :)

1: Cinderella
2: Aurora
3: Ariel
4: Pocahontas
5: Mulan
6: Belle
7: Tiana
8: Rapunzel
9: Merida
10: Elsa
11: Anna
12: Snow White...
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 1st place: "I See the Light" - euny
1st place: "I See the Light" - euny
Welcome to the 3rd icono of the mes Article!!!

This time our Winner is *Drumroll*

euny with her Icon: "I See The Light"
Congrats girl!!!

2nd: nmdis: "Red"
3rd: CraZy_rawR: "Details"

Here is the interview with the winner, euny!

~ About tu ~

When did tu join?
I don’t remember, but I wasn’t very active until last year.

Why did tu join?
Because I was starting to amor Disney.

How did tu pick your username?
It’s a short version of my real name.

What is your favorito! Princess?
Rapunzel. She's so sweet, intelligent and fun.

~ About the icon: ~

What program did tu use?
PicMonkey.

How did you...
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bluethunder25: Hello everyone, this is bluethunder25 and I am here with the First Lady of The disney Princesses, the lovely Snow White. Snow, thank tu for taking the time to be here.

Snow White: Thank tu very much for having me.

bluethunder25: Well, Snow White, obviously, you're the first disney Princess. tu were a disney Princess before it was even cool to be one. How did it all start for you?

Snow White: Well back in the days cartoon stars had to meet a certain criteria. tu had your Betty Boop's, your Koko's, your Bimbo's; I first approached Flescher Studios and told them I wanted to be...
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