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posted by icuSTALKER
Hello one and all. Yes, this is icuSTALKER, here to address a few preguntas on the one character everyone hates: Jason.

Before tu decide to press the ‘exit’ button and go back to your meebo conversation, I’ve got a few things to say. I ranted about this very same thing on Meef’s question: Does anyone like Jason?
Then when I was done with my rant and had publicado it, I realized it was two pages long. So I settled for an articulo instead.

Ready?

Good. Sit tight.

I am hearing Jason being called these things: a Percy wanna-be, prideful, selfish, mean, arrogant, a jerk, a coward, and a cheap copy of Percy. Because I am a verified Jason fan, I'm here to merely state my opinion of Jason, the good points I see in him, what may be behind the bad points, and the backup I thought was valid from Rick Riordan's the one and only 'The lost Hero. :D

I'm going to kick off with a simple statement: Jason is a character. Pretty simple, right? But I’m not quite sure it’s exactly nice to say you're going to stab him in the chest over and over just because tu hate him for whatever reason, but okay (seriously, I’ve seen that XD). I find it funny that people go overboard with their passion to kill him with all their heart, mind, and strength. He's a character and RR is going to do what he wants with him, right? People can do what they want to him in their own stories; make him seem mean, jealous, stupid, etc. But here’s what I was wondering: if tu want to be a good writer, don’t tu have to stay on the character's personality? When was Jason ever mean? When was he ever selfish? Did he hog the glory and attention?

My answer: No. He did not. As a matter of fact, he was the exact opposite. Examples:
“I’m sorry,” Jason said. “I think my being here – I don’t know. I’ve messed things up coming to camp, somehow. Chiron dicho he swore an oath and couldn’t talk about it.”
-Jason Grace, The lost Hero, pg. 99

We see here something: Jason is apologizing something he’s not even responsible for. To me, this seems like he could apologize all over the place about things he wasn’t the cause of. So he’s a gentleman, and he’s willing to take responsibility for something that’s not his fault. Somehow, he’s determined to make the impression he is one of the causes of this whole mess, and not Hera. He knows he’s not responsible, but what does he do? Lays out the problem and apologizes. Who protects the queen of the Gods? Apparently Jason, whether he knows it o not. Even toward the end of the book, he doesn’t completely hate on Hera and accepts the fact that she’s his patron.

See? All us ladies prefer gentlemen, don’t we? XD *glares at Twiggy* No, Twiggy, I’m totally kidding about that! :D I just felt like saying that. XD Sorry!

Back on track.

Piper caught Jason’s eye. He mouthed, You all right? She nodded and managed a smile, but then looked away.
-Piper McLean, The lost Hero, pg. 122

Now what do we see? This is what I’m seeing: caring and love. He cares about her and is making sure she’s all right. According to some people, Jason is a selfish, arrogant jerk. I ask you, is that what tu see here? To me, it’s an obvious no.

Rachel paused, as if giving Jason a chance to protest his destiny. Everyone’s eyes were on him; there was so much pressure, Piper thought she would’ve buckled in his position. Yet he looked Valiente and determined. He set his jaw and nodded. “I agree.”
-Piper McLean, The lost Hero, pg. 125

This can be perceived in two ways: one side says this means Jason is stealing all the glory and will be the new leader of the camp. Well, isn’t he supposed to lead the two camps? I don’t think Percy can do that por himself, do you? I take this as an action that takes guts and shows Jason is trying to help, even trying to help a supposed enemy that his feelings beep on and people he doesn’t even know. Would tu help a random, smoking, tobacco chewing stranger? Probably not. I know the Greeks aren’t like that, but Jason’s spirit repels their presence because they’re Greek and he’s Roman. Yet he helps them. Does he need to make an impression? No. He had the choice, despite Hera’s interventions.

I’m done with examples for now. If tu want more, ask me.

My en general, general opinion: Jason is a Roman, respectful, and he's like Percy in many ways, yes. People can think otherwise but that's how I see him. He called Leo annoying. But may I say, he was under a spell and he did apologize later. Is this Percy? Yes. If he's like Percy, why don't tu like him?

tu can't blame RR for copying Percy's character. First off, in your eyes, Percy is pretty much 'perfect', am I right? He's grown on you, has been maturing under your eyes, and tu KNOW him because of the first point of view on one character. This is not the case with Jason, right? Because he lacks the first person point of view, readers don't know him as well and they compare him with Percy, of whom the audience know better. So therefore, not only has the reader lost the ability to learn about Jason, but tu have made him look like a Percy wanna-be por comparing him with Percy. May I remind you, he hasn't even met Percy yet. So if he doesn't know Percy, how could he want to be like him? Sure, he may have heard some rumors about how great a hero Percy is, but did the book say any stories? tu don't know Jason's past, tu don't know his adventures, and who knows? Maybe he did something better than Percy.

This is the first thought that comes to your mind about this idea: how absurd! Jason is a stupid weakling and Percy is far más superior. Team Percy!!!

Nope.

I don't mind if anyone hates Jason. What I do mind is the comparing of Jason to Percy. Each has their advantages and disadvantages. They're equal. What evidence is there to back up Jason is selfish, mean, and stupid? I really can’t find any, so if you do, then please let me know.
I think he may be prideful at times but I believe he has something called bravado. Bravado is pretending to be brave. Did he do that? Yes. That doesn't mean he's weak. For a kid younger than Percy, he's pretty accomplished. Has Percy had bravado? Yes he has. He pretends to be Valiente so he can protect his friends. Jason may have sounded arrogant when he used bravado, but he's Roman. Romans are specifically trained to not mostrar weakness, and since he was raised por Lupa, this practice is enforced. To sound arrogant is good because it shows you're in charge and tu can keep the steady flow going. tu know what to do. That's what Jason has been trained in. So how is Percy better o worse than him?

He's not.

They're equal. tu may think differently of Jason because of who's his father. But are all demigod kids like their parents? No. Look at Frank. He and Mars are nothing alike. Jason has chosen to step up and help lead the demigods. This doesn't mean he will steal all the glory and Percy will be left as an outsider. That's not the case. Jason dicho so himself in The lost Hero he wasn't ready to lead and he didn't want to.

Jason took a deep breath. “I understand all that. It’s okay. I’m going to try my best. I’ll try to make tu proud. But I could really use some guidance, Dad. If there’s anything tu can do – help me so I can help my friends. I’m afraid I’ll get them killed. I don’t know how to protect them.”
-Jason Grace, The lost Hero, pg. 542

An interesting speech toward his dad. He doesn’t have confidence, but he is younger than Percy and he doesn’t want to do it. But he still does. This is an example of Percy’s character in the first book o so.

Jason had to stand up and face his destiny, just as he had done when he faced Porphyrion with his bare hands. Sure, it seemed impossible. He might die. But his friend were counting on him.
-Jason Grace, The lost Hero, pg. 546

Again, he accepted the challenge when all hope and pressure was on him. Jason isn’t naïve. He’s prepared for the worst to happen, and he still takes on the task. Bravery? That’s what I think.
He knew it was a big responsibility. Who would want to do it? But because of the way he was raised and because people look up to him, it's más like he's forced to do it. Otherwise, what would he be? The same person everyone who hates him thinks he is now. Labeled a coward and selfish. Why is he selfish if he steps down? Because he's leaving everyone else to the war. Why is he a coward? Because he stepped down. But he didn't step down, and that takes guts. There's the risk of failure and false thinking of him that because he's leader, he'll order them around like slaves. No. And that's because, as tu people said, he's a copy of Percy. This does not mean he wants to take Percy's place and is a Percy wanna-be. It just means he's a copy. If he wasn't a copy, he'd be the selfish, stupid, mean, lame, cowardly, arrogant jerk everyone thinks he is. Would tu like him then? Definitely not. So why change his character to something different so tu hate him more? What's the point?

Now I’m going to address an answer I found on the pregunta ‘Even though RR is trying so hard to mostrar that Jason is a hero, I think he’s just a cheap copy of Percy.’ And this time, I’m using the wise words of the one and only Meef, who I found worded my thoughts almost perfectly. Sorry Meef! :P I just found it to be a good answer.
Meef picked the answer: I disagree.

“I disagree to a certain extent as Jason is a completely new character with nothing in relation to Percy. They share leadership and skill qualities, but other than that they are barely copies of each other. They both have completely different backgrounds, one being a boy who was mistreated por his stepfather and whatever, the other a boy who was taken away from his family at young. Therefore both are different as they come from different families, different aspects of the same god and also have a different upbringing, so they are not copies.”

I clap for you, Meef. In this paragraph, tu worded my thoughts exactly. They do, in fact, have different pasts, different families, and different raising. So no, in my opinion, Jason isn’t a copy. They’ve got, as Meef said, some qualities to share and leadership skills. Thank you, Meef.

“However, I agree to a certain extent as Jason was obviously introduced to rival Percy. Percy was doing fine on his own but Jason had to butt in and take over the first book. The first book was interesting, but it was mostly about three characters we knew nothing about, and a little of the others we know so dearly. The segundo book, although mostrando Percy also brought in two más characters and was kind of boring in my opinion. But eventually it is Percy who overshadows Jason as he is able to bring glory back to the fifth cohort, unlike Jason who was praetor and couldn't do schist.”

I apologize for taking out that one word. Yes, that’s the word I mean. That one word. THE word, and- actually, never mind. Well, the word I replaced with ‘schist’. :D

This is the part where I found some things I disagree with, no offense. Jason butt in the first book for a reason, and that reason was Hera, yes? He didn’t take over the first book, in my opinion. I’m not sure he was meant to rival Percy. I believe they will have disagreements and will struggle a little with sharing power, with Percy being the Greek’s leader and Jason used to being praetor. Of course they will. A Greek and a Roman. I do believe they’ll try their hardest to get along and accept the other’s ideas. They’re Jason and Percy, two leaders, examples, and sensitive to other’s feelings, yes? I also found the segundo book a little boring as well and not as light-hearted :P. Just because it has Percy in it doesn’t mean it’s my favorite. I also disagree with Jason not doing anything for the fifth cohort when he was praetor. As far as I’m concerned, we don’t know his past and he was praetor for a few months, after the Titan War, so there is nothing to fix o help the fifth cohort with. Some ask that if he’s so great, then why didn’t he became praetor sooner? Well, I doubt the Romans would let a kid fourteen and under help rule an entire camp full of families and over two hundred demigods, regardless if they were smart and would be good lawmakers anyway.

“Therefore I dislike bubbles.”

Wait, why the dulce de azúcar, fudge is this on my Microsoft Word document anyway? I thought I took it off. Um, I guess, in addressing this misceláneo statement, I’ll conclude that Meef is a troll? Haha, ask Liz o Hollister o look at Meef’s motto. I think Liz disagrees with this statement as she goes on about bubbles. Quite frankly, I have to agree with you, Meef. I dislike bubbles as well XD

0.0

*dodges flying tacos*

Anyway, back on track!

His approach to amor triangles: ah, we all want to know that, don't we? If he approaches it the same way Percy did, is he still a Percy wanna-be? Keep in mind, he doesn't know Percy's past. If he approaches it in a harsh I-don't- have-time-for-this way, who can blame him? A lot of people would blow up as well. In fact, they would blow up in frustration, wouldn't they? I would because I wouldn't take it anymore. Are the people any más hated because they did that? No because several people support them. But if Jason is hated and he really hasn't had time to prove himself, then the tiniest mistake will set a rebellion and, frankly, an I- hate-Jason fan club.

To envolver, abrigo this up, I don’t believe Jason is a bad guy. I don’t believe he’s the snobby person some people say he is.

This is just my view and my opinion. Contradict me if tu will, but please be nice about it. I just needed to rant and I hope tu don't mind. Sorry :)

Thank tu for taking your time to hear out what I have to say, though tu may not like it. Thanks to Meef because I kind of borrowed what he dicho without his approval (I’m so sorry, Meef!) and thanks to all of tu guys who are listening. And in addition, I hope Twiggy didn’t fall asleep like he dicho he would if I were teaching an essay class :D

Peace out.

icuSTALKER
seriously this is a retarded movie
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posted by universalpowa
Rating: T (just to be safe...)

Disclaimer: Rick Riordan owns all characters mentioned.

[A/N- Just enjoy! And cheesy endings are cheesy. yum, cheese...]

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Leo

LEO WAS HAVING A ROTTEN DAY.
It all started when he woke up- someone had forgotten to get him from the forges last night, and he fell asleep siguiente to the chainsaw.

That’ll wake anyone up fast.

Leo blinked and looked around, noticing the chainsaw.

He swore and yelled “AHHHH!!” as he leaped to his feet. Looking down, he noticed his tool cinturón, correa was missing too. How could things get any worse?

They...
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added by LORDCHAOS
I feel this song relates to Percy being in camp Jupiter and Annabeth in CHB!
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posted by Zelda4Efas
Reyna wasn't in the mood for this.
Reyna had sorted out two cohort disputes, a foodfight, handed out punishments to the incompetent armory polishers, and sent out yet another buscar party after Jason.
Reyna even missed a meeting with her sister to listen to this pegasi dung.
"Speak Octavian, tu called us for an emergency,"
"Yes Praetor, as tu may know, the prophets of old have always forseen sn apocolypse,"
"Oh not this again" The leader of the third cohort groaned, secretly, I imagine everyone would agree, but Romans should mostrar a little más self-discipline.
"Quiet Shayne, the augur has the...
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Jason

Jason was a little shaken about the events that occurred. He wanted to see Percy but felt a bit awkward with Annabeth there.
“Jason! He’s back! He’s back!” a Roman camper ran towards him waving his hands around.
“Who?” asked Jason
“Percy JACKSON!” she exclaimed
Jason wanted to meet Percy he was the only other person who knew what he was going through. Jason felt like he was in no man’s land. He turned to see the outgoing stretch of the Little Tiber and then a boy in the distance soaking wet playing with what looked like Annabeth. Jason from out of the blue had an idea....
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Jason

Jason was a little shaken about the events that occurred. He wanted to see Percy but felt a bit awkward with Annabeth there.
“Jason! He’s back! He’s back!” a Roman camper ran towards him waving his hands around.
“Who?” asked Jason
“Percy JACKSON!” she exclaimed
Jason wanted to meet Percy he was the only other person who knew what he was going through. Jason felt like he was in no man’s land. He turned to see the outgoing stretch of the Little Tiber and then a boy in the distance soaking wet playing with what looked like Annabeth. Jason from out of the blue had an idea....
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posted by peetniss
Percy

Percy looked across the clouds anxiously. The Greek warship would be arriving soon. All though of the Roman camp had high expectations of Graceus, Percy couldn’t but wonder into the world that is Annabeth Chase. All memories had come flooding back to him and he felt like he’d been shot with adrenalin. The Romans lined in their cohort at attention, heads facing the sky. Reyna and Octavian standing as the clear leaders of the camp. A glimmer in the sky and he knew they were here. A dragones head spiked the clouds. A huge warship sailed in front of them; Percy didn’t know how to respond....
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Beneath the Surface

FORGOTTEN

He who is Doomed to walk The Forgotten Road,

Knows only sorrow and pain ,

For he himself is a shadow,

with nothing but death to gain.

Refuge

The boy in shadow sheds a tear,
as the Scent of Dawn draws día near,
for it brings with it the time for talking,
and the Lies he must tell send him walking,
into the shadows,and out of the Light,
as he seeks Refuge among the Night.




















































































Well ,hope tu like it!
posted by gumbee
It's after the giants war and all seems to be calm until one día trouble brews. Two heroes are forced to take the blame and were banished from camp half blood. Their friends had forsaken them except for two others who went with them. They were the outcasts. Now the titans and giants have risen together and the help of the outcasts are called upon......." Three shall go west to the mountains beyond.Finding the lost and going on. Death shall consume one of the four very soon. lost will two be unhappily. Four will roam where no one goes. Gaining might for the last fight"Daughter of Zeus Son of...
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posted by vlad_todd_fan
Dear Percy,

The smile on your face. I amor that smile. Our hands together. the cool yet comforting feeling it brings me. Your eyes. So green, like the grass, o seaweed. Your black hair. Shining in the sunlight. Your height. The fact that I have to reach up on my toes to let my lips melt into yours. Its all what I miss.

I miss your laughter. When tu would try to balance an aceituna, oliva on your nose...that was so cute. I miss your arms, the way they would envolver, abrigo around me and hold me tight when I cried out tears. I miss your voice, when tu would tell me I was beautiful, o when tu would try so hard...
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posted by unknownquestion
If there was another cliffhanger what would tu do?
Instead of just asking that how about we create on that would drive us crazy.
For example to tu Percabeth enamorados what would happen if Annabeth steps out of the shadows and says,"Do tu remember me?"
o to others the last sentence was, there was a ship heading towards camp.
I know if there was another cliff hanger i would burn the book o rip it to shreds. It's just ugh...
Oh and what if they got together (greeks and romans) then they goton the ship and were attacked *shakes head* We all either amor o hate cliffies!
What is Percy doing at Camp Jupiter and why is everyone calling him the Son of Neptune? registrarse Percy and his new Roman demigod friends, Frank and Hazel, as they embark on a daring and mystical quest battling beasts, giants, and gods. Will Percy ever regain his memory, uncover the meaning of an Ancient Prophecy, and reunite with Annabeth? Only if he lives that long!

The catalog also says the book is 544 pages

That is what was written siguiente to The Son of Neptune in a scholastic catalog.
This tells us that Percy is being called the Son of Neptune, is friends with Frank and Hazel, is going on a quest,...
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posted by _Aphrodite_
Okay many of tu guys have heard of the story Atlantis. Neptune went to sleep for many years, but he had 7 son, and they made their empire evil, so when Neptune woke up and seen what his son had done, he destroy Atlantis with a giant wave/earthquake.

Remember in the beginning of SoN Juno dicho the son of Neptune has been asleep for many months. Also in the SoN cover it looks like Atlantis sink/falling like in the stories. Also it strange how the atlantean called the god por his roman foros like the Romans at camp jupiter.
It kinda connected, but we'll wait and see.
posted by MisterPerfect1
This PERFECT'S GTKMB (Get To Know Me Better). I advise everyone to this, so we can all get to know each other better.

To start things off, I amor to write. I was born to write. If tu have read some of my foros posts tu would understand. Oh, here's one:

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I used to next-door-neighbors with Rick Riordan. He even gave me some tips on how to improve my writing. And now look at me.

(PERSONALITY): I can be very talkative. But only when I am around people I know. But other wise, I will be very quiet.

I am good at dancing, and I amor chicken. (Yes, I am African-American). I am excellent artist. I am thirteen years old.

So there tu have it! I might add más to this. So...Thanks!
posted by halfblood963
(spoiler alert)

umm if tu look at the camp halfblood wiki it says on percy jackson page that percy after carrying june he uses a river to kill medusas sisters and it takes away his achills curse and then june reveals shes juno and he meets frank hazel and reyna who some how knows his name and she takes him in just becuz he might be an enemy o recruit now i honestly think its true and i want someone to pregunta them about it though




it may o may not be true but before u guys say halfblood u wretched fool dont be like zeus check out camphalfblood wiki
posted by halfblood963
hello there and this is halfblood and i know franks dad how hazel and reyna o some other ppl are.


Frank son of ares because he looked like it and had a jabali, jabalí behind him he looked like clarisse the girl version


then theres this blonde and a girl with curly brown hair and it looks like a goddess with dogs
my guess is evil dude = blondie hazel = curly Frank= jabali, jabalí guy and Juno=Goddess


u can see them in the amazonas, amazon video but imma go see heroes of olympus.com bye and ciao and comentario about what tu think

P.S rick riordan dicho in the video that well find out the doors of death
posted by Perseus54321
                        Disappearing Boy
                         por Green Day
                         Annabeth

One night after working on the Argo II, I felt restless in the Athena cabina so I took out my ipod and started listening to Disappearing...
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posted by labyrinth75
Hi Labyrinth here with my first ever articulo so hope tu like it.

In Percy's mest up Life (Which we may want más than our normal boring lives) theres always been someone with him and I'm not talking about Annabeth o Grover (Although they've been at his side since the beginning) I'm talking about us the readers.

We returned Zeus' precious Master Bolt with him in the Lightning Thief.
We searched for Grover with him and Annabeth in the Sea of Monsters.
We held up the Sky with are friend in The Titan's Curse.
We got lost with him inside the Labyrinth during the Battle of the Labyrinth.
We stood by...
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posted by halfblood963
have tu heard the 7 are
jupiter
aphrodite
hepheastus
athena
ares
poseidon and hades if u go on myth and mystery youll see an arrticle with a link and go on then see the contest and see the god if tu win will have a son o daughter and theyre 7 and if tu win the demigod will be from your hometown and this says por october 4 well know the 7

this is just wat i think mostrar your thought and percyt will not be one of the 7 cause u can pick poisedon in your hometown AND YOULL BE A CHARACTER MAYBE