Olivia Wilde Interview with Cosmopolitan 

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On Tuesday night, actress Olivia Wilde hosted the Physicians for Reproductive Health\'s Voices of Courage benefit — an annual ceremony in New York City that honors the work of abortion providers who stand out among their colleagues for going beyond the already-demanding call of duty. At five months pregnant with her second child, Wilde delivered awards to Dr. David Grimes and Dr. Colleen McNicholas. And while they were the honorees, Wilde said she was honored herself just to be able to sit in a room full of doctors doing such important work.

Cosmopolitan.com sat down with Wilde to ask what it\'s like to be a voice for abortion access, how her opinion on abortion has changed since she became a mother, and what she\'ll do if Donald Trump wins the presidency.

Cosmopolitan.com: You\'re known for using your voice to raise awareness for abortion access, and how, in practice, it\'s not necessarily a right for many people right now. Do you ever get any backlash for that?

Olivia Wilde: I get so much vitriol. I mean, the thing that\'s wonderful about social media is that we are able to give a voice to the voiceless and to help educate each other.  I benefit from it as much as I provide those lessons. I read so many things because a colleague or a friend will post something, and I\'ll be able to learn a tremendous amount, only because they drew attention to it. So I try to do that for others and that\'s the great thing about social media. It\'s not always a narcissistic cesspool or waste of time. 

The negative side of it is this anonymous forum to throw hate at each other. But I think if you\'re not getting any of that, you\'re not saying anything worthwhile. So I take it as a badge of honor. You\'re provoking emotion. And in order for conversations to achieve anything, you have to be provocative because you have to make people feel things. It\'s not actually OK to just be apathetic about anything.

Listening in awe to Dr. Colleen McNicholas, an abortion-providing physician, as she is presented with the George Tiller, MD award for outstanding courage in hostile and challenging environments, by Physicians For Reproductive Health. I was deeply honored to host their event tonight, as they recognized the heroic doctors on the front lines of the battle to provide safe, and affordable reproductive health care to women nationwide. Colleen works at the one remaining clinic in Missouri, and drives to Kansas to work in the clinic in Wichita, where George Tiller worked for decades, and was murdered in his church. As a human being, a mother, and a pregnant lady who loves babies, I am deeply inspired by everyone I met tonight. NO MATTER WHAT YOU BELIEVE, here\'s the thing: abortion isn\'t going to stop. People are going to find a way, whether it\'s safe and legal, or potentially deadly. So let\'s not let ideology get in the way of evidence. Let\'s take care of each other and work hard to stop the stripping of our reproductive rights.

Alienating any part of your audience isn\'t a concern for you?

Sometimes it is scary. I will admit that there are some really freaky things that people will say and threats people will throw out there, and sometimes my family will say, "Well I don\'t want you to get acid thrown in your face." But then when I listen to one of the abortion providers tonight talk about how someone posted a picture of her and her one-year-old daughter and specifically threatened them... I mean,

, because she was providing healthcare for women… That is so far above and beyond anything I\'ve ever experienced that it makes someone on Twitter throwing out a completely ridiculous threat [at me] seem really meaningless.

You\'re here tonight pregnant with your second child. How have motherhood and pregnancy changed how you feel about abortion access and reproductive healthcare?

You realize when you\'re pregnant how lucky you are to have access to medical care. I mean Dr. Fiss, who\'s my actual doctor, when I left she was like "I need to see you next week, you have a checkup." There are several checkups, and you realize how important each of those are. They aren\'t just to rub your back and ask if you\'re feeling tired, it\'s to check for essential developmental issues, and the vitamins that are provided, and the education you\'re receiving from your healthcare provider. It\'s staggering how much you learn in those months becoming a mother. 

In terms of access to abortion, I feel so lucky that I was able to choose when to become a mother, and that in between my two children, I was able to plan that I didn\'t want to have one right away. I had access to contraceptives to help me make that decision, and [I could decide] when to make the next move for what\'s best for my body and my family. These are all things that we take for granted and yet, tonight, I realize how many people rely on those physicians in that room to help maintain some modicum of control over their own bodies. If you think of Margaret Sanger, that was again only about 100 years ago that she was saying, "Wait a minute, we\'re fighting for the right to vote, but women also need the right to have contraceptives so that we have a chance to think about voting and don\'t have 14 kids." 

And it always boils down to a class issue. It would be ignorant to ignore that that is what this is all about, and so it\'s really important for those of us who have access to healthcare and have access to abortion to speak up for the people who are in Oklahoma. It\'s our job, because they\'re losing that battle.

What would you say to young women who are living in places like New York City, San Francisco, or these places where access is much more readily available, who want to help women around the country where access isn\'t so readily available?

I would say it\'s our responsibility to fight for our sisters around the country. We\'re all connected by being women. And men too — as we\'ve seen, these great men are activists in this movement as well — so all of us really have to look out for each other and I think finding ways to frame this conversation in a way that\'s not divisive is really important.  It doesn\'t have to be, "Are you

-abortion?" It\'s a much more complex issue than that. But I think really encouraging people to engage those who seemed to have made up their mind about it, and questioning why they have, and being bold about having the tough conversations and realizing that it may not be affecting us here now if places like Oklahoma ban abortion — but it will eventually. It\'s time to really become active. 

People like to joke about how everyone will leave the country if Trump wins the presidency, which is a funny premise to entertain but is actually very serious. What is your biggest fear about a Trump presidency?

It is terrifying to think of what would happen to women\'s rights in this country. People say like, "Well, maybe if Trump wins, it\'ll provoke a sort of revolution and we could win back Congress and this\'ll just be a breeze and we\'ll get back on track," and that is insanity because it would take us many years to win back Congress, and the damage he could do between now and then is enormous. 

I think what\'s happening is that people find him to be such a buffoon that we forget how harmful he could be, but you have to think about the people who would be placed around him. This is a crisis situation and there\'s nothing even cute about pretending that we can even take our eyes off the ball for a second. I\'m totally terrified by the fact that he has a chance, and what we have to learn, no matter what happens with this election, is that there are a huge number of people in this country who have already voiced support for him and we have to get at the root of what is causing them to feel that way. We have to think about what is driving these people to want someone who\'s so far outside the government speaking in these insane terms, because they feel they\'ve lost all hope. 

So you\'re not on board to head to Canada if he wins then?

No. We double down, we stay here, and we really get focused. If that were to happen, we become the most active civil society and we come together and we figure out why we could lose control over our own rights. But we have to do that anyway, that\'s what I\'m saying. The fact that it\'s gone this far... We really need to slow down and connect and think about why people are feeling inspired to take such a huge risk.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

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