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posted by FloCircle
The Fidelius Charm is a powerful charm that is central to the Harry Potter tale. In Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Professor Flitwick tells us the charm is:

"an immensely complex spell ... involving the magical concealment of a secret inside a living soul. The information is hidden inside the chosen person, o Secret-Keeper, and is henceforth impossible to find -- unless, of course, the Secret-Keeper chooses to divulge it." (PoA pg 205/152)

J.K. Rowling gave us further information on the how the Fidelius Charm works. In a preguntas frecuentes encuesta on her official site, she says:

When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them, or, to put it another way, the status of their secret will remain as it was at the moment of their death. Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else. (JKRowling.com)

So, although Flitwick describes it as "complex", J.K's descripción is seemingly straightforward, the information is concealed within the Secret-Keepers soul, and there it stays for an eternity, unless the Secret-Keeper chooses to communicate the knowledge. But is that the whole story? No.

The house at Godric's Hollow, 12 Grimmauld Place, and Shell Cottage are three properties that are protected por the Fidelius Charm, three properties that have been secured against Voldemort and his Death Eaters. But within each property we see differences in the way the Fidelius Charm works.

We are told Peter Pettigrew, por virtue of the charm cast por either Lily o James, was the Secret-Keeper for the Potter's inicial in Godric's Hollow. But in the final book, Deathly Hallows, J.K. establishes how and why that secret is no longer kept:

"Harry --" "Look... Look at it, Hermione ..." "I don't ... oh!" He could see it; the Fidelius Charm must have died with James and Lily. (DH 331/271)

We have been told por both Flitwick and J.K. herself directly that the Fidelius Charm has a life span irrespective of the Secret-Keeper, that "the secret dies with them". But here in Deathly Hallows is an example where that's not true, in this case, the Secret-Keeper (Pettigrew) is still alive, but the secret has, nevertheless, been revealed to the world. And J.K. tells us through Harry's narration that the reason the Fidelius Charm was broken was because the spell caster (James o Lily), NOT the Secret-Keeper, had died. Is this a mistake in the books? Maybe not.

This seemingly contradiction leads us siguiente to the headquarters for the Order of the Phoenix, 12 Grimmauld Place, and a whole host of new questions.

We are first told por Sirius in Order of the Phoenix about the Fidelius Charm on 12 Grimmauld Place, when he tells Harry:

"Dumbledore's Secret-Keeper for the Order, tu know -- nobody can find Headquarters unless he tells them personally where it is" (OotP 115/107)

Dumbledore is Secret-Keeper, but who cast the charm? I think it is generally assumed that Dumbledore himself cast the charm, but this cannot be so, because if tu follow the above example the spell only breaks upon the death of the caster, we see now that the location of 12 Grimmauld Place is still protected after Dumbledore's death.

It seems a logical conclusion is that Severus Snape could have been the caster, as it has to be someone still alive after Dumbledore wasn't. This is just another example of how deeply Dumbledore trusted Snape, to have dado him such a powerful position in the secret of the headquarters of the Order.


OK. So now, because of how it is described why Harry and Hermione can see the remains of the house at Godric's Hollow, we have a new understanding of the complexity of the Fidelius Charm. So, J.K.'s descripción of the charm should really have been:

When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them. Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else. UNTIL the spell caster dies, then the secret is revealed to everyone.

But wait, the spell gets even más complex. In Deathly Hallows, we learn why the Burrow has replaced 12 Grimmauld Place as the headquarters of the Order:

Mr. Weasley had explained that after the death of Dumbledore, their Secret-Keeper, each of the people to whom Dumbledore had confided Grimmauld Place's location had become a Secret-Keeper in turn. "And as there are around 20 of us, that greatly dilutes the power of the Fidelius Charm." (DH 90/79)

So, was it a mistake to tell so many people the secret of 12 Grimmauld Place? It would be unavoidable, everyone who was in the Order and had to go there would have to know. Does this infer that Dumbledore knew the spell would eventually be very diluted, and so therefore only intended that the building be the headquarters of the Order for a short time?

We must ammend the original descripción yet again:

When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them. Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else. UNLESS the Secret-Keeper dies, then all those who know the secret become Secret-Keepers. UNTIL the spell caster dies, then the secret is revealed to everyone.

In Deathly Hallows, we learn about another complexity of the charm, and why it's so tricky to use. After their escape from the Ministry, Hermione says:

"As we Disapparated, Yaxley caught hold of me ... we arrived at Grimmauld Place ... I've already taken him inside the Fidelius Charm's protection. Since Dumbledore died, we're Secret-Keepers, so I've dado him the secret, haven't I?" There was no pretending; Harry was sure she was right. It was a serious blow. If Yaxley could now get inside the house, there was no way that they could return. Even now he could be bringing other Death Eaters in there por Apparition (DH 270/223)

When Hermione inadvertently revealed the secret to Yaxley, since she was a Secret-Keeper, she has dado him the secret. So, as we can see now, for the Fidelius Charm to be effective, both the caster and the Secret-Keeper must remain alive, and the Secret-Keeper needs to give out the information necessary with extreme caution -- one mistake will cost both the Secret-Keeper's life and lead to the revelation of the secret.

And this uncovers another big flaw in how the Fidelius Charm works. If tu know the secret of a hidden place, tu can bring in someone else who doesn't know the secret, if tu bring them in using side-along apparition.

So the charm has huge flaws -- but what about its complexity? How difficult a charm is it to cast, and how long does it take? How does it take effect? Does the property simply vanish into thin air, concealed as Grimmauld Place is in nothingness? Who can see it the moment the charm is done -- are tu exempt if tu are within the boundaries?

Trapped in the dungeon of Malfoy Mansion, Harry tells Dobby:

"Right. Dobby, I want tu to grab Luna, Dean, and Mr. Ollivander, and take them -- take them to --" "Bill and Fleur's," dicho Ron. "Shell Cottage on the outskirts of Tinworth!" (DH 468/379)

And Dobby obviously finds Shell Cottage, as we see Luna, Dean and Mr. Ollivander had made it there. A little later, Harry and Dobby, who had returned to the Mansion, escape in the middle of the fierce battle to capture him. Harry grabs Dobby's hand and disapparates them both through the sheer power of his will to Shell Cottage.

Back at the cottage, after Harry buried Dobby, Bill tells Harry:

"...The Death Eater's know Ron's with tu now, they're bound to target the family" ... "How are they protected?" asked Harry. "Fidelius Charm. Dad's Secret-Keeper. And we've done it on this cottage too; I'm Secret-Keeper here." (DH 482/390)

Dobby found Shell Cottage the first time on his own, so it couldn't have had the Fidelius charm on it at that point. It couldn't have been added in the time between Dobby's first trip and when Harry brought Dobby back there, because even if Dobby had been told the secret, he didn't have time to tell it to Harry, and Harry found Shell Cottage all on his own, so it couldn't have had the Fidelius Charm on it then either. So, these new Fidelius Charms must have been added between the time that Harry arrived at Shell Cottage, and when he returned to it after burying Dobby.

But, this means that if tu are within sight of the protected area before the charm is cast, tu don't need to be let in on the secret, because we have now pinned down when the Fidelius Charm must have been placed on Shell Cottage, during the time Harry was off burying Dobby, HOWEVER, he did NOT need to be told the secret to return to the cottage. He just turned back to it and it was still there.

So, let's fully restate it one más time, with everything we know:

When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them. Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else. EXCEPT if tu are within the premises of the protected area when the spell is cast, tu do not need to be told the secret. AND if tu know a secret place, tu can bring someone who doesn't know the secret into the hidden place using side-along apparition. UNLESS the Secret-Keeper dies, then all those who know the secret become Secret-Keepers. UNTIL the spell caster dies, then the secret is revealed to everyone.

Knowing what we know now from the information in the books, this leads us to dark and ominous preguntas such as:

Would the Potters really had been any safer if Sirius Black had indeed been the Secret-Keeper? At some point would he have only had to tell Peter Pettigrew for Pettigrew to sell Sirius to Voldemort, in order for Sirius to die, and make Pettigrew a Secret-Keeper por default.

And, if Bathilda Bagshot had wandered into the garden of the Potter's inicial just as the Fidelius Charm was performed, would she too, like how Harry saw Shell Cottage, be able to continue to see the house and its residents without having been told the newly formed secret? Would she have kept the secret, even under the Imperius curse?

The flaws, the discrepancies, and in some ways, the reliance on mere chance, leads to the unnerving conclusion that if the Fidelius Charm really was the Potter's best chance of survival, then perhaps it was always only just a matter of time before Voldemort got to them, no matter who had been chosen as Secret-Keeper. If Sirius had lived, could perhaps this realization have lessened the guilt he felt for feeling responsible for James and Lily's death?

It would seem that the Fidelius Charm, on closer inspection, is not the powerful security measure that we were led to believe it was.
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posted by Flora_Swift
1) Ravenclaw: If you're going to insult me, please be grammatically correct.

2) Gryffindor: Because a friend will cover for you. But a real friend would sit net to tu in detention and say that was so worth it.

3) Neville: OMG! I killed Harry Freaking Potter!
SOMEWHERE IN THE DISTANCE:
Voldermort: Nooooooooooooo!!!! I wanted to do it! *sob*

4) Severus Snape is so GOTH "he lives in the dark"

5) The libros in the resticted section of the libary needs anger management.

6) THINGS THAT I AM NOT ALLOWED TO DO AT HOGWARTS 64: First years are not to be fed to Fluffy.

7) THINGS THAT I AM NOT ALLOWED TO DO AT...
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My opinion is that it gives way too many spoilers. I mean, I watched someone playing it and it was like lectura the book! So my consejos is to not play video games of libros tu have not read yet. Please don't unless tu want to ruin your life. Your whole entire LIFE. To any sane person out there, follow my advice. Either that o READ FASTER. To any Harry Potter fan, From Me!
P.S This is consejos from one Harry Potter fan to another. And never name a yorkie shihtzu Howard. EVER. It just doesn't fit him. o her.
-The world is not división, split into "good people" and Death Eaters.
-Know your weaknesses and learn to use them to your advantage.
-Belief in Wackspurts doesn't make tu less of a person.
-Eat chocolate, it really helps.
-It isn't who tu are, but what tu grow to be.
-Even if tu just believe tu swallowed Felix Felicis, tu will still do amazing things.
-Dementors affect both wizards and Muggles alike.
-Though the Snitch is small, it earns the most points when caught.
-The Sorting Hat might put tu in one house, but Hogwarts fights best when fully united.
-Death is but the siguiente great adventure.
-Galleons...
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After rereading both DH and SS, I began to wonder. tu may have seen the picture of Harry releasing the snake in the zoo with JKR's comentario on the snake being Nagini. I actually have a few problems with that. I realize that some of this can be called book-movie inconsistency, but this is a Wild and Crazy theory.

First off, gender. Consistently, Nagini is called female. HOWEVER, if tu listen carefully to the snake's voice in SS, it is clearly male.

Next, location. Voldemort must have made Nagini into a Horcrux fairly soon after doing the same (accidentally) with Harry. Thus, the snake in the...
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Dear

Thank tu very much for your letter addressed to J.K.Rowling. We receive many letters from young people who ask Ms. Rowling how to become a writer and ask about her inspirations.

As tu can imagine, the great popularity of Harry Potter and his autor have resulted in extraordinary demands on Ms. Rowling's time. The flood of letters reaching put to Ms. Rowling is truly overwhelming. Much as Jo Rowling wishes she could respond to each and every request, it is not humanly possible. She has asked us to respond to her many fans and then adelante, hacia adelante all the letters she recieves.

Jo Rowling tells young...
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posted by Hermione-Fan361
Year 3
I'll be switching between POV's like last time.

Scorpius POV

     I waved to Hagrid, who was lugging in a GIANT navidad árbol for The Great Hall. "Ello, Scorpius." he grunted, his hands much too occupied to wave back. "Have tu seen Rose, Hagrid?" I asked. I had been searching for her most of the day, as I wanted to say bye to her before she left for home. "Not today... tu migh' wanna check th' mistletoe bunches. She migh' o' gotten stuck under one." he replied, lumbering off with the gargantuan tree. The mistletoe bunches! Why hadn't I thought of that? The bunches are encantada so...
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posted by sharon-sel
avatar is the highest-grossing film of all-time, with a global gross of almost $2.8 billion, and ten films have grossed in excess of $1 billion. All the films presented here have had a theatrical run in the last twenty years, and films that have not played during this period do not appear in the chart due to ticket-price inflation, population size and ticket purchasing trends not being considered. Gone with the Wind—first released in 1939—has earned $3.3 billion globally when adjusted to contemporary prices, making it the best all-time performer at the box office.[10] The most represented...
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All proper rights and respects to J.K.

Hermione's P.O.V

I let out a small gasp. When Wood described Abby, I though of a small, timid girl. I was quite wrong. In fact, as soon as she pulled up, I knew I was wrong. Even from outside tu could hear up-beat música playing from the car.

But then she stepped out.

She wore a gray checkered mini skirt, a purple top, a cropped black chaqueta with pelaje, piel cuffs, stripped knee socks, and chunky black boots. But her clothes weren't nearly as shocking as her hair. Her hair was streaked rainbow.

"OLLIE!" She squealed as she ran up to hug Oliver.

"Abby?!" He sounded as...
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posted by Thecharliejay
[edit] A
Mrs Abbott – Mother of Hannah Abbott, killed por Death Eaters
Hannah Abbott – Hufflepuff student in Harry Potter's year, member of Dumbledore's Army, later the landlady of the Leaky Cauldron and wife of Neville Longbottom.[1] She is portrayed por charlotte Skeoch in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets and in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.
Euan Abercrombie – Gryffindor student who enters Hogwarts in Harry's fifth year
Stewart Ackerley – Ravenclaw student who enters Hogwarts in Harry's fourth year
Falco Aesalon – Ancient Greek wizard, first known Animagus
Cornelius...
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Rank título Worldwide gross año Ref
1 avatar $2,782,275,172 2009 [# 1]
2 titanic $1,843,201,268 1997 [# 2]
3 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King $1,119,110,941 2003 [# 3]
4 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest $1,066,179,725 2006 [# 4]
5 Toy Story 3 $1,063,171,911 2010 [# 5]
6 Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides $1,032,828,392 2011 [# 6]
7 Alice in Wonderland $1,024,299,904 2010 [# 7]
8 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 $1,008,460,000 2011 [# 8]
9 The Dark Knight $1,001,921,825 2008 [# 9]
10 Transformers: Dark of the Moon $982,892,000 2011 [# 10]
11 Harry...
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posted by bendaimmortal
I think there's something fishy to it. Because it's horribly unreliable and through that horribly unfair and useless.

Some theorize that magical children are born with the Trace but I don't think so because the libros talk about it as something that is put on people, as in a charm. And in magic it should be possible to make a más specifically effective charm. Even the Magic Quill at Hogwarts lists the names of every magical inhdividual born. The Trace should be working the samw way but it isn't.

I've racked my brain with the Trace matters after I (in the respuestas part of thsi club) brought up...
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posted by dannylynn92
REGULAR
1 scoop of cool whip
caramelo de azúcar con mantequilla, caramelo de mantequilla ice cream toppping mix till well blended
and cream soda <3 A&W


ICE CREAM BUTTERBEER
1 scoop of cool whip
caramelo de azúcar con mantequilla, caramelo de mantequilla ice cream topping (mix till well blended)
cream soda A&W
1 scoop of vinallia ice cream



she made both for me today there her own recipes and they are so good tu just HAVE to try the ice cream one its amazing ive got a pic of the ice cream one in my pics if tu need to see what it looks like and make sure tu have a spoon it sets fast but its good even when its set

<3 happy butterbeer drinking kids
link and I saw something similar por link on this spot for link, and we just had to think up a lista together for Severus as well :-). I amor these lists

1) Take Sirius to the vet to get him neutered.
2) Take Remus to the vet to get him neutered.
3) Hit Sirius with a newspaper on his nose and say “Bad dog!” just because tu feel like it.
4) Introduce Dumbledore's leg to Sirius' new girlfriends as Sirius' ex.
5) Pretend to throw a frisby around Sirius...or Remus (it wastes a lot of their valuable time trying to retrieve a non existent object)
6) Stop with the conspiracy theories and telling everyone...
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OKAY, BEFORE tu READ THE CHAPTER, PLEASE NOTE THAT I CAN NO LONGER TAKE ANYMORE CHARACTERS AND THAT I'M FULL SO PLEASE DON'T ASK ANYMORE, I'VE LEARNED FROM OTHER FANFICTIONS THAT IF tu PUT TO MANY CHARACTERS THE STORY GOES DOWN THE TOILET. WITH THAT SAID, LETS PRAY FOR japón AND I HOPE tu CAN ENJOY THIS, CAUSE ITS TIMES LIKE THESE THAT MAKE tu REALIZE THAT WE DONT HAVE ALOT LEFT TO LIVE SO WE MIGHT AS WELL ENJOY ALL WE HAVE LEFT

Chapter 5:

All four of us were having a great time eating sweets Harry bought us,(I chipped in a little, i don't like being a moocher)when this bushy brown-haired...
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posted by Persephone713
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" always"
I hear all the time...from some how they think Snape truly hated Harry. o how the two couldn't possibly like each other. But then again there are so many complex facts that would suggest otherwise. James and Sirius were mean to Severus when they were all at Hogwarts. And Snape had a fascination with the Dark Arts and preferred his studies to goofing off. Plus he had an abusive father and a mother who tried to mostrar compassion but couldn't do anything about her husband. So Snape grew up bullied at inicial and at school and his only outlet of affection was Lily Evans. Then of course that fateful...
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Now first of all let me state that I’m a true harmony fan and I hate any other shippings of girls with Harry. Because I am firm believer that harry is for hermione and no one else can come between them!
Now getting on to the point, before I read HBP I never bothererd to even give a segundo thought for Ginny weasley. Who was she any ways? I never bothered for her at all. So I dindt in any way notice her. But the thing started in HBP and I grew so sick of her!

Now lets see how ginny weasley came into the story!
Until the Chamber of secrets, ginny was just like any other muggle mentioned in the...
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posted by LifesGoodx3
 tonks and her husband, Remus Lupin,
Tonks and her husband, Remus Lupin,
Nymphadora Tonks, better known as simply "Tonks", was killed on May 2nd, 1998, in the Battle of Hogwarts. She was battling alongside her husband, Remus Lupin.

Tonks is the daughter of Andromeda Tonks, formerly Black. Her mother had gotten away from her families ways. She was not a Death Eater and she did not believe in blood-purity; tonks took after her mother in that way.

The first time we see tonks she is helping to safely mover Harry from the Dursleys house to 12 Grimmauld Place. That night she risked her life, but it was all for the cause. tonks was both an auror and a member of the Order...
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