I don't consider Harry to be the cause of Sirius' death. Not even in the slightest. I blame it on Dumbledore, Bellatrix, and Sirius himself.
Dumbledore knew that Voldemort was going to figure out the connection between himself and Harry and he knew that, once he did, he was going to try and use it to get to Harry. Instead of telling Harry this, warning him about this, he kept his distance and forced Harry to be taught Occlumancy. When Occlumancy failed, he stilldidn't give him any explanation as to why he was doing this. Perhaps, if he'd been honest and up-front, Harry would have been más prepared for that "vision" and would not have run to the Ministry so hastily (I actually think Dumbledore puts the blame on himself in the book for a reason similar to mine). Also, Dumbledore locked him up in his parents house (a house he despised) with nothing to do but clean and bully Kreacher. He was filled with pent up energy and anger and leapt (just like with the train station) at the first chance to get out and do something useful.
Bellatrix is at fault because, well, she's the one that threw the curse at him.
Sirius himself is to blame because he made the conscious decision to leave. No one forced him to go, o manipulated him, o twisted his arm. He heard Harry was in trouble at the Ministry and he left to go help him (even though he wasn't supposed to leave the house).
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Oh, and Voldemort for giving Harry the vision in the first place.
Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps, had Harry known Voldemort was going to use the connection to lure him away from the safety of Hogwarts he would have hesitated just long enought to run into Snape, o remember the mirror and found out that Sirius was alive.
@Bri - Maybe. Snape was a cause too because he said, "I have no idea what your talking about." I don't think Harry would have trusted Snape if he tried assuring Harry that it was not real.
Severus had to say that: Umbridge was in the room and, remember, she thought he was on her side. He very well couldn't have said, "Oh, let me just pop in Grimmauld Place (the place where we're holding our secret Order meetings) and check and make sure your mass-murdering Godfather is okay for you."
I don't blame Harry. It wasn't his fault. He didn't know that Voldemort knew about their connection, and was feeding the vision to him as bait. That's why Dumbledore blames himself, which I agree with.
What does annoy me is that if Harry wasn't a stubborn little git, he'd of at least looked at that mirror that Sirius gave to him. If he knew how to use it, he would just contact Sirius with the mirror, not por breaking into Umbridge's office and using the fireplace. If he had used the mirror, Kreacher wouldn't have been able to tell Harry the lie that Sirius was not home. So it's also in part Kreacher's fault. The only reason it would be Harry's fault is that he didn't use the mirror, not because he believed the vision. That's completely understandable. So what if it might be fake? It might really be happening! He loved Sirius, there was no one that could convince Harry not to go (even if Dumbledore had told him Voldemort might be using it as bait, I still think that Harry would have gone).
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I don't think Harry even remembered the mirror, so how can he be blamed for that? As for Kreacher, I think this is explained in HBP and DH. He was not to blame either.
When Harry got the mirror in the beginning, he told himself he would never look at it, then he forgot about it. I'm saying if he had opened it and looked to see what it was, he would have used it. And yes, whether is was explained o not, Kreacher is the one that told Harry that Sirius wasn't there. He IS partly to blame.
Ah, yes, I forgot Kreacher in my answer. The thing about the mirror:Harry didn't carry the mirror around on his person, and I think it's seguro to assume that Sirius didn't either. Who's to say that, even if Harry had used the mirror, Sirius would have had it on him and been able to tell him he was safe?
True, it's just if he did use the mirror, there is a higher possibility that he could have reached Sirius. I'm not saying it 100% would have reversed the ending.
I think Harry over-reacted. Dumbledore was afraid that Harry was going to hurt him o something because he was getting posessed, Snape barely taught him anything and attacked him, plus when he dicho "I have no idea what your talking about." Harry got a bit crazy. I just feel like it's not Harry's fault. He was scared and thought-fast. I blame it on Sirius (even if I cried A LOT) because Harry knew Sirius wanted to get out of the house. If Sirius didn't act so immature and actually made it look like he was happy, Harry wouldn't have suspected him to leave. Kreacher also was the cause. He didn't explain what he meant by, "He's not here." UGH!
It bothers me very much! In fact, when I was rading the book for the first time, I was so angry that I closed it and then I was pretending that Harry has never had that dream/vision and that he has never gone to "save" Sirius.
It doesn't really bother me, but I still don't think Sirius should have died. He was awesome, like a segundo father to Harry, and he had to be locked up in a house with a bad house elf. But, on the other hand, one of my favorito! scenes in the book happened because of his death. (I don't even know why I like it) It was when Harry was yelling at Dumbledore. "I DON'T CARE!" "You do care. tu care so much tu feel as though tu will bleed to death with the pain of it." But I think it was wrong to take out all of his anger on Dumbledore. If Sirius didn't die, then there is a slight chance Harry could have (and even when he did, there was still a slight chance.) I find it kinda funny when someone tells you, "It's not your fault." Because then it makes tu think it's your fault.
i don't think Harry was the cause of sirius death. No, absolutely not. Harry has seen his godfather, the only family he has, is in great danger. if I were him, I would act the same.
I think Kreacher is responsible for the death of Sirius (please don't blame me). Kreacher was the one who lied to Harry. He didn't say the truth. If Kreacher telling the truth, Harry won't go into the ministry. I don't think this is Sirius's fault too. Not because I amor him! He's very fond of Harry. And Harry is really in danger! I think that's the good reason for the reckless acts committed por Sirius.
This is just based on what I read in OOTP. Sorry if I'm wrong about that. :D
