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debate Topic 2: Which antagonist from action anime series do tu think would win in an ultimate battle?

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 debate Topic 2: Which antagonist from action anime series do tu think would win in an ultimate battle?
 blackpanther666 posted hace más de un año
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whiteflame55 said:
So, I think this is an interesting question. Now that we're off protagonists, pretty much anyone who makes this lista will have lost at some point. So we know their limitations... to an extent.

I could lista off dozens of powerful villains, but I'll just keep it to the ones that I thought of first. Blackbeard from One Piece should get a asiento at this table, wielding two Devil frutas powers and never having truly "lost" a battle. Doflamingo, one of my all-time favorito! characters, wields an awesome Devil frutas and Conqueror's Haki. Aizen, despite having turned awful towards the end, was incredibly powerful and very smart. In reciente naruto history, we've seen Obito take on a role as an incredibly destructive powerhouse with apparently no to his abilities. I could also choose Madara, who has practically every power known to man and easily dispatched every living Kage alone. Gilgamesh from Fate Zero has a bóveda, bóveda de of endless weapons to draw from, including Ea, an anti-world weapon capable of altering the world at large.

But... Listen, all of these guys are fun, and I'm sure someone's going to choose at least one of them (someone, please pick Doflamingo, I want him in this), but I really can't do so, mainly because the first name that came to mind has just stuck in my head and I can't get rid of it. I remember the first time I really got a chill from a villain, and it wasn't back in DBZ o Yu Yu Hakusho, despite those being some of my first anime experiences. It was in Outlaw Star, an interesting anime that I enjoyed but haven't rewatched. Nonetheless, this man's face stuck out to me.

Lord Hazenko. An extremely proficient user of Tao Magic, he managed to work his way out of what essentially was a black hole into nothingness with relative ease. And that's before he gets a hold of the power of the Ley Line, essentially becoming nearly limitless in power, as well as the capacity to absorb others. The only reason he's defeated is due to the combined power of his enemies, who were also using the Ley Line. Just seems like an utter badass to me.
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 So, I think this is an interesting question. Now that we're off protagonists, pretty much anyone who makes this lista will have lost at some point. So we know their limitations... to an extent. I could lista off dozens of powerful villains, but I'll just keep it to the ones that I thought of first. Blackbeard from One Piece should get a asiento at this table, wielding two Devil frutas powers and never having truly "lost" a battle. Doflamingo, one of my all-time favorito! characters, wields an awesome Devil frutas and Conqueror's Haki. Aizen, despite having turned awful towards the end, was incredibly powerful and very smart. In reciente naruto history, we've seen Obito take on a role as an incredibly destructive powerhouse with apparently no  to his abilities. I could also choose Madara, who has practically every power known to man and easily dispatched every living Kage alone. Gilgamesh from Fate Zero has a bóveda, bóveda de of endless weapons to draw from, including Ea, an anti-world weapon capable of altering the world at large. But... Listen, all of these guys are fun, and I'm sure someone's going to choose at least one of them (someone, please pick Doflamingo, I want him in this), but I really can't do so, mainly because the first name that came to mind has just stuck in my head and I can't get rid of it. I remember the first time I really got a chill from a villain, and it wasn't back in DBZ o Yu Yu Hakusho, despite those being some of my first anime experiences. It was in Outlaw Star, an interesting anime that I enjoyed but haven't rewatched. Nonetheless, this man's face stuck out to me. Lord Hazenko. An extremely proficient user of Tao Magic, he managed to work his way out of what essentially was a black hole into nothingness with relative ease. And that's before he gets a hold of the power of the Ley Line, essentially becoming nearly limitless in power, as well as the capacity to absorb others. The only reason he's defeated is due to the combined power of his enemies, who were also using the Ley Line. Just seems like an utter badass to me.
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You've mentioned some pretty good characters here. Aizen, Blackbeard and Doflamingo are good characters. I don't know who Lord Hasenko is, but he does sound interesting. XD
blackpanther666 posted hace más de un año
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Impossible! naruto isn't a series where the main character just keeps getting misceláneo power ups at opportune moments!
whiteflame55 posted hace más de un año
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^ Indeed. God forbid that something unorthodox, in anime, should happen...
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zanhar1 said:
Pretty sure tu all saw this coming, but I swear to God I have legit reasons!

Lust; for one she's near immortal. She was shot at least 20 times in the manga/brotherhood and burned alive at least 5 before she died. Prior to this she survived an explosion and the ripping out of her heart. It takes a lot to kill her; you'd have to kill her to death essentially. And it's a butt pain to kill her just once.

That being dicho she heals super fast. Almost immediately after getting her corazón ripped out her skin started regenerating and in segundos (or what would have been, had she not purposely halted the process) the wound was closed. Likewise with the gunshots the bullets were cast out of her system and the wounds all closed with nothing stopping it.

Add her claws that rip through anything to the mix. She could chop metal in half imagine what that does to the human body. She can penetrate pretty much anything with dem claws.

And, lets not forget her claws can extend very long distances making it both harder for her opponent to kill her to death o even get near her as well as making it easier for her to fight. el espacio is a huge advantage.

And this isn't just about brute strength; she's smart and manipulative too. In the first anime version she taught a man to cure a disease all the while manipulating him, this ended in a whole village's demise. She was also the first to realize Dante was basically using them and just screwing them over. So Lust has brains and brawn (lol BRAwn).
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 Pretty sure tu all saw this coming, but I swear to God I have legit reasons! Lust; for one she's near immortal. She was shot at least 20 times in the manga/brotherhood and burned alive at least 5 before she died. Prior to this she survived an explosion and the ripping out of her heart. It takes a lot to kill her; you'd have to kill her to death essentially. And it's a butt pain to kill her just once. That being dicho she heals super fast. Almost immediately after getting her corazón ripped out her skin started regenerating and in segundos (or what would have been, had she not purposely halted the process) the wound was closed. Likewise with the gunshots the bullets were cast out of her system and the wounds all closed with nothing stopping it. Add her claws that rip through anything to the mix. She could chop metal in half imagine what that does to the human body. She can penetrate pretty much anything with dem claws. And, lets not forget her claws can extend very long distances making it both harder for her opponent to kill her to death o even get near her as well as making it easier for her to fight. el espacio is a huge advantage. And this isn't just about brute strength; she's smart and manipulative too. In the first anime version she taught a man to cure a disease all the while manipulating him, this ended in a whole village's demise. She was also the first to realize Dante was basically using them and just screwing them over. So Lust has brains and brawn (lol BRAwn).
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A good answer. I think Lust is a pretty interesting character. Plus, tu also have good reasoning and that's what I was looking for when I made this question. Kudos. XD
blackpanther666 posted hace más de un año
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Thank you. She is indeed an interesting character, background and all. :P
zanhar1 posted hace más de un año
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I was thinking of answering with Lust. Her character I'm neutral towards but I do have to agree, she is pretty powerful~
hetalianstella posted hace más de un año
silverexorcist said:
First, to save me some time, please refer to the picture below. In an instant, I will debunk a few of the más common candidates for your shounen loving otakus.

...Saw that? Yep. That's right. We can even add Gasai Yuno and some other god-level characters to that. Fact is, that eccentric shoujo who was basically the start of anime among American fans can easily materialize any candidate within the world, o wipe them out of existence just por considering it, no sweat o master plan involved. I'm sure some will try to argue, but tu can't change fact. But Haruhi Suzumiya can!

*Ahem* Anyways, she's not really an 'antagonist', though I feel she deserved the mention. The one who has the honor of taking my vote...well, it's a tie between Najimi Ajimu and Iihiko Shishime, both from Medaka Box. The prior is a 'non-human' who's existed since the Big Bang, wielding over a quadrillion individual skills, immortality, and a severe simulated reality complex. The latter is a monster of a man who's 'existed' for 5,000 years and can cause irreversible destruction. Incidentally, he killed the overpowered Najimi with a rubber band. Both are the only two to have defeated the overpowered Medaka in their own various ways, and frankly, Iihiko is technically stronger, though marginally, while Najimi is definitely más 'overpowered' due to her massive plethora of abilities. I...I can't see either of them losing, except to each other. They're so overpowered, it only worked out because Medaka Box was so absurd a manga, I was too tired to pregunta 'why?!?!?!' again after suffering the first many arcs yelling that word.

But most of tu probably don't know the characters, and I don't blame you. Just know, I'm confident they can beat both Aizen and Madara to the ground simultaneously. As for Haruhi...she can wipe them off the face of the earth.
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 First, to save me some time, please refer to the picture below. In an instant, I will debunk a few of the más common candidates for your shounen loving otakus. ...Saw that? Yep. That's right. We can even add Gasai Yuno and some other god-level characters to that. Fact is, that eccentric shoujo who was basically the start of anime among American fans can easily materialize any candidate within the world, o wipe them out of existence just por considering it, no sweat o master plan involved. I'm sure some will try to argue, but tu can't change fact. But Haruhi Suzumiya can! *Ahem* Anyways, she's not really an 'antagonist', though I feel she deserved the mention. The one who has the honor of taking my vote...well, it's a tie between Najimi Ajimu and Iihiko Shishime, both from Medaka Box. The prior is a 'non-human' who's existed since the Big Bang, wielding over a quadrillion individual skills, immortality, and a severe simulated reality complex. The latter is a monster of a man who's 'existed' for 5,000 years and can cause irreversible destruction. Incidentally, he killed the overpowered Najimi with a rubber band. Both are the only two to have defeated the overpowered Medaka in their own various ways, and frankly, Iihiko is technically stronger, though marginally, while Najimi is definitely más 'overpowered' due to her massive plethora of abilities. I...I can't see either of them losing, except to each other. They're so overpowered, it only worked out because Medaka Box was so absurd a manga, I was too tired to pregunta 'why?!?!?!' again after suffering the first many arcs yelling that word. But most of tu probably don't know the characters, and I don't blame you. Just know, I'm confident they can beat both Aizen and Madara to the ground simultaneously. As for Haruhi...she can wipe them off the face of the earth.
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I've only watched 2 episodes of Haruhi. Does it get pretty epic, then? Anyway, interesting choices, though not completely unexpected from you, Exorcist. tu seem to have a large knowledge of anime series and their corresponding characters. I knew this club would somehow suit your tastes.
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It's just that anime, manga, and games are a big hobby of mine, like how people amor baloncesto o football. I enjoy it too much. As for Haruhi...well, it follows a mystery genre, and Kyon's monologue's are just fun to listen to. If tu consider the time at which the anime aired, it is really the best of its time. But thanks to many circumstances, a third season doesn't look feasible...and it used to be my favoirite series, too...
silverexorcist posted hace más de un año
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What's Zeref from? I have heard the name from somewhere, but unsure as to where it was from.
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hetalianstella said:
While I don't like her that much but, I'll have to go with Medusa from Soul Eater.
For one, she's a talented actor who is persuasive and successful at manipulating almost anyone which is always quite a dangerous quality for a villain. I mean, she even managed to live as a nurse in the academy without even Lord Death having the slightest idea and was even able to learn about the Kishin under the school that only a few people knew about. She's quite smart. When it comes to things like madness, witchcraft, soul wavelengths, etc. she's one of the most knowledgeable characters in the series. She invented the black blood using Crona as her experiment and then the black blood even made its way into Maka and Soul's body effecting them.
Her magic is pretty strong. She's even able to hold her own against the most powerful death scythes. And even if her body is destroyed she can transfer her soul into one of her snakes and posses someone else's body. Her snakes especially are a huge part of her strength considering she can easily have them enter other human bodies and rip them to bits if she wants to like she did to one of those other helpless witches. She never has to get close, she can attack from really long distances. And she's able to implant certain snakes that can increase someone's madness and significantly decrease their ability to fight. I mean, she has thousands of these snakes in her body and she can use them without even needing to drop her soul protect. And then there's attacks like the vector plates and arrows and even trap someone using them. Even Stein one of the most skilled meister's wasn't able to get out of that one vector plate blockade.
*Spoiler*
And for her to finally die took forever. It took one of the most powerful rare attacks to destroy her. There's even some theories that say she's not dead but that she might of just had another snake carry her soul into another body. Though her death in the manga is extremely different. In the manga Crona killed her which surprised me because it seemed like being as strong as she is she would have been able to get out of it...~
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 While I don't like her that much but, I'll have to go with Medusa from Soul Eater. For one, she's a talented actor who is persuasive and successful at manipulating almost anyone which is always quite a dangerous quality for a villain. I mean, she even managed to live as a nurse in the academy without even Lord Death having the slightest idea and was even able to learn about the Kishin under the school that only a few people knew about. She's quite smart. When it comes to things like madness, witchcraft, soul wavelengths, etc. she's one of the most knowledgeable characters in the series. She invented the black blood using Crona as her experiment and then the black blood even made its way into Maka and Soul's body effecting them. Her magic is pretty strong. She's even able to hold her own against the most powerful death scythes. And even if her body is destroyed she can transfer her soul into one of her snakes and posses someone else's body. Her snakes especially are a huge part of her strength considering she can easily have them enter other human bodies and rip them to bits if she wants to like she did to one of those other helpless witches. She never has to get close, she can attack from really long distances. And she's able to implant certain snakes that can increase someone's madness and significantly decrease their ability to fight. I mean, she has thousands of these snakes in her body and she can use them without even needing to drop her soul protect. And then there's attacks like the vector plates and arrows and even trap someone using them. Even Stein one of the most skilled meister's wasn't able to get out of that one vector plate blockade. *Spoiler* And for her to finally die took forever. It took one of the most powerful rare attacks to destroy her. There's even some theories that say she's not dead but that she might of just had another snake carry her soul into another body. Though her death in the manga is extremely different. In the manga Crona killed her which surprised me because it seemed like being as strong as she is she would have been able to get out of it...~
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