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kurt cobain Murder o Suicide?

197 fans picked:
Murder
   51%
Suicide
   49%
 abcd posted hace más de un año
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abcd picked Suicide:
Twelve reasons why I think he didn't kill himself and why he was murdered:
1) The shotgun was clean and there were no fingerprints
2) He had too much heroin to hold a shot gun
3) The gun was far from his body
4) He was a lefty and the bullet came from the right side
5) Courtney Love hired a hitman a couple days before his death
6) A call from his "mom" was a couple of days before the incident
7) He was as happy as he could have been
8) He wanted a divorce but Courtney didn't want it
9) He had a baby and loved her
10) He didn't appear suicidal
11) He wanted to get clean from drugs
12) He was going to retire and live with Frances
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AngelZebraFish picked Murder:
Agreed with above. Most of those points I have used to argue my case
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ilovehinder picked Murder:
abcd just pointed out everything i was about to say. we all know its true. right now im trying to prove to my friend justin that he was murdered
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RustyAngel73 picked Murder:
abcd hit the nail on the head
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hellgirl223 picked Suicide:
u guys gotta point!
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dizzy_claire picked Murder:
I mean if there is eventually hard facts that it was suicide then I won't be completely shocked or anything, but I do believe murder was very likely, and I do think Courtney may have had a part in it.
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Nirrvaan picked Murder:
His murder was masterminded by his wife courtney love.The herion found on his body was not so much too kil a (addicted person)and the second prove is that he was lefty and the shortgun was found on his right hand & his credit card was used after his death. there were NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fingerprints on the shoutgun AND the sucide letter last four lines were not of his own handwriting...COURTNRY DID not reopen the case again ... EVEN SHE THINGS THAT ITS A SUCIDE ..................... WHICH CANT NOT BE POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE WHO REALL LOVED KURT COABAIN CANT REALL AGREE SO SOON .....

MY OPNION ABOUT DIS CASE IS kurt donald cobain was murderd .
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abcd picked Suicide:
right now i think it is suicide,
1) the fingerprints might have been rubbed off accidentally by someone handling it while picking it up to look for evidence or since it was a couple of days after someone found him and they waited a while to check fingerprints.
2)there was a study about this, a guy took 3 times the limit it was shown that it took a minute until things caught up, and we don't know how much he can take and his body might have got used to it.
3)the gun was actually in his left hand (source was bad)
4)he might have done it intentionally
5)we still dont know if it is true if she hired a hitman
6)might have nothing to do with it
7)it is normally the happiest people who commit suicide
8)maybe it was the other way
9)it was said that when he saw her after his tour she didn't care he was there and that she used to be like "daddy's here!"
10)might have been hiding it
11)he relapsed
12)even when you retire media always follows you
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obsesivefanatic picked Suicide:
Courtney wouldn't kill him. This is why he killed himself:
1) He didn't like people, and a lot of people liked him.
2) He tried to commit suicide earlier in life on tour.
3) His life wasn't a good one.
END OF.
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Jody866 picked Suicide:
i love kurt but he was a little sad
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JustJosh picked Murder:

the bitch killed him , i hate you Courtney
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bros_of_gondor picked Murder:
THANK YOU- JUSTJOSH!!! I TOTALLY AGREE!!!
that bitch had him killed!!! he had too much heroin in his system to hold a gun: there was 1.52 milligrams of it in his blood; thats 3 times the normal fatal dose even with his tolerence for heroin, he couldnt of even held the gun!
Plus the guy that courtney tried to hire to kill him was found dead a little while after he told people, 'he was hit by a train.'
That whore wanted his money, and had him killed so she could have it. Now theres like none left for his daughter, and shes sold like all of his shit!
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hyugagrl4sasuke picked Murder:
look its as simple as this
1.Kurt had 3x the LETHAL amount of heroine in his system. If that poor man was alive there's no way in hell he could pick up a shotgun and put the barrel in his mouth and pull the trigger with his toe. There was no way. The inly explanation was Courtney or a hit man she hired (i believe she did it) shot him then tried to cover it up by wiping the gun clean and injcting him with heroine but they didn't measure it so they put too much in and that my dear cobain lovers is what truly happened to Kurt Cobain
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abcd picked Suicide:
you don't know how much heroin kurt tolerated, they did a test on a guy where they put 3 x the lethal amount on a guy and he could do stuff for a minute until the heroin kicked in
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Solsikke picked Murder:
He was murdered :(
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roobiip picked Suicide:
I'm not sure :( if he did then I think that someone brought him to do it.. which is almost the same as murder..
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AuntJemima picked Murder:
Kurt Cobain was not as happy as he could be your stupid... he was a emo before they were called emo but not some pussy emo a hardcore emo like heroin and shit UHHHHHHHH
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FranceCurtis11 picked Murder:
Itz All Courtneys Fault. She Killed The Best Singer We Had in THis World. Shame on Her. We Should Kill Her. Dat Bitch. Frances Doesnt Deserve Dat !
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Hellhammer picked Suicide:
I liked Kurt too, but now his dead and arguing about his case won't bring him back.
Sad but true.
He had his problems, thats why he wanted to get rid of them.
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rockandmetal picked Suicide:
i dont even knoe which one it was?!?!?!
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KmiiCobain picked Murder:
was courtney bitch fault..
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lydia94 picked Suicide:
We can't know for sure, but he was depressed. I don't think it was courtney, i believe she loved him. who the hell would like to kill Kurt Cobain?????
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Vixie79 picked Suicide:
I think it was just suicide.
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Ilovefreddyk picked Suicide:
R.I.P Kurt Cobain
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psychokiller32 picked Suicide:
First of all, everyone who typed that he had a "lethal" dose or too large a dose of heroin to commit suicide is a total idiot. There is no magic number or level or otherwise of heroin that causes death. What I take daily would kill most people today I had 120 mgs of methadone for breakfast along with 60 mgs of adderall. About 11 hours later I crushed and ingest 10 80 mg oxycontins and snorted one. I chased it about 15 minutes later with a cup of herbal tea and 5mgs of Xanax, I feel really good, but I'm coherent enough to drive, do the dishes, mow the lawn etc. Now 2 years ago that would have killed me, but you can build up a tolerance to opiates that may seem unfathomable to some. &if you are saying now duh duh duh well heroin is different you're even dumber than I thought b/c while yes of course it is slightly different in that it is a whole other substance the mechanism of action is similar and the chemical formula (now we're talking on a mo-lec-u-lar level here, is very similar). Besides before methadone saved my life I shot plenty of heroin and had to take people to the hospital that did less than I did. And if you doubt I can do all that, bring em all over and I'll show you, and thanj you in advance. Kurt was like myself, a lifelong user of opiates, he was on them basically from age 16, and it just changes your brain's biochemistry so much, and then he became rich. That m'f'er was doin so much heroin each day it was unbelievable so that's out. 2nd it isn't unusual in that since they paid a maid to clean, and before he picked it up the shotgun was probably clean of prints, that just using to shoot oneself in the head there wouldn't be prints on it. Try it yourself-WITH AN EMPTY GUN (though you people are so annoyingly stupid I don't wish death on anyone not on my list). 3rd he was chronically depressed, and trust me chronic depression and opiate addiction is a bad, bad mixture. It has been very hard for me at times to hold on, which does make me pose the question that if I could hold on and get through it, would a multi-millionaire set for life financially with a new baby really feel that hopeless as to do it?
That is the big question. And since I have the unique insight into it it does seem hard to swallow at times, and there are things you didn't mention like that douchebag P.I. Courtney hired and her friend searching the house and not finding the body in the greenhouse. I don't know where that dumazz abcd gets his info from, but he seems to change his mind more often than his underwear, but since he had the heroin thing and the prints thing listed, then goes on to say he was as happy as he could have been (who talks like that anyway?), and that he didn't appear suicidal, makes me throw all his other stuuf that I don't know of out the window, no matter how much of a silver spoon fed sucklin on his mommy's teet easy azz life he had, you have to know that if someone is climbing over the wall of a drug detox, you are not as happy as can be dancin on lollipop lane. I don't know about the divorce thing, I'd like to know more about that but lioke one of the few non braindead people said, we can't bring him back, but I even have a problem with that, b/c if he was murdered, then I would like to see the person/people responsible be made to pay for it. I did over three years of my life in jail over probation violations that all stemmed from kicking someones ass and being a passenger in a f'in stolen car, and my best friend is in the f'in penitentiary over violations of a case that started with pot, so a f'in murderer who took all that good music he still had in him away from us, his fans should pay. But I also saw that 50 year old stick armed, man boobed fried brained singer who claimed Courtney tried to hire him; and it's hard to lend too much creedence to him.
At this time I think it was just the suicide of a chronically depressed, lifelong opiate abuser who was used by nearly everyone around him, including Courtney, and just couldn't take it anymore.
That whole he was killed b/c he was going to quit making music and he was worth more dead than alive is an absolutely retarded hypothesis. People take breaks from recording and touring all the time, and even if he was thinking of stopping, I'm sure he'd have went back to making music eventually. If there is actual evidence that he was planning on leaving Courtney, and he had evidence of her infidelity or something and she wasn't going to get much cash out of him and he was going to get custody, then it's possible, that Courtney could have set something up, but I doubt it, b/c the laws are tipped in the scales of the woman in the first place, and Kurt's problems were well publicized. It's doubtful he'd've gotten sole custody. So in spite of some strange things, and some shady people, and incompetent people, I truly think he just had enough of this shitty world and said goodbye to it.
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Brucas4evr picked Suicide:
We all love Kurt but fact of the matter is he had issues and his songs though speaking to our souls b/c he felt what we felt were testimates to his depression. His life was falling apart he was so deep in drugs and the fame he didn't know what to do with himself and him and Courtney were on the rocks and he only had his daughter which according to some was distant with her father he had a long time to comtemplate his desicion and though we wish someone did something to help him with his obvious but at the same time hidden depression there just wasn't anyone there to really look at him and say 'ok so here's a man who obviously is dealing with a lot and needs a friend not a bed buddy or drugs' which most of his so called friends were on compromising his recovery and ultimately he felt suicide was the only way out of his hell i wish he didn't do it but i really believe that he did and wanted us to at least have an inkling as to why thus his letter. Trust me, i wish out of the two if he had to die when he did that drugged-up mess otherwise know as Courtney did it i really don't like her and even if she didn't directly do it she had her part in it if he wasn't murdered well even though they were in the process of getting a divorce she was the closest to him so i don't believe there isn't anything she could've done like she said while reading Kurt's alleged suicide note she could've gotten help for him supported him with his recovery from drugs and not making him feel like crap for not doing what all the other rockstars were doing. I blame her for getting herself so caught up in the dangerous world of rock and roll and for Kurt going down for both her and himself i blame her for Frances placated affection towards her father in the days leading up to his passing i blame her alot for Kurt's downward spiral that ultimately ended in his death and now Frances has to deal with that burden of not having a father growing up and having a junkie of a mom with a few screws loose in her head.
P.S i totally agree with psycokiller32 you can do so much drugs you can build an immunity to it and various other things i can only compare it to like snake bites sometimes people let snake bite them or ingest their venom in small doses and take more little by little until they could probably have the deadliest venomous snake bite them 10 times over and not have any side affects that's what it was for Kurt he could probably have more herion than blood in his system and he'd be all good and the probable reason i think he took all that herion was b/c of the side effects the attitude it would've gave him the high, the fake happiness. He probably wanted to be happy while he died so when he was perfectly comfortable he did what he felt he had too and abcd if the gun was in his left hand yes he could've shot right side he was high what do expect he wasn't completely level minded he was a mysterious person to some of the very distant outside lookers maybe he wanted his death to be weird just like a lot of ppl percieved him as.
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lorastefens picked Suicide:
Ohh come on Courtney didn't kill him.I love him but he was suicidal.
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Mallory101 picked Suicide:
Murdered? Really. We all loved him, yet knew he was suicidal.
Are the drug addictions, clinical depression, and the hand written suicide note not enough for you?

-Kurt said during Nirvana's 1991 European tour his undiagnosed stomach pains were so severe, he became suicidal and stated that taking heroin was his choice", stating "This is the only thing that's saving me from blowing my head off right now."

-Kurt's cousin who was a nurse pointed out there was history of suicide in the family. She believes his bipolar disorder and his struggles with drug addiction led him to commit suicide.

-In Charles Cross's Heavier than Heaven, bandmate Krist Novoselic talked about seeing Cobain in the days before the intervention: "He was really quiet. He was just estranged from all of his relationships. He wasn't connecting with anybody."

-According to the Fingerprint Analysis Report, four cards of latent prints were lifted but contained no legible prints were found on the shotgun.

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Teamjacob27 picked Suicide:
He had already tried to commit suicide he was found comatous with a suicide note! xxx
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runawaysforever picked Suicide:
SUICIDE! Stop blaming Courtney, you morons!
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hitman11 picked Suicide:
Only morons blame Courtney, Kurt is one of my idols but people have to get past the fact that he did indeed kill himself. I know it's hard to process because we love him so much and don't want his image soiled but... he was a very disturbed man and obviously suicidal. Now please leave Courtney alone, she's batshit crazy but that doesn't mean she's not human.
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andreapain picked Suicide:
Whatever, but I think that suicide would be his "the best way to die".
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MinaRae picked Suicide:
Courtney may have killed him, but maybe she didn't. But she did drive him to it.
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William1618 picked Murder:
Just listen to Come as you are, your answer is there within the lyrics. He new that sometime may murder him.
That's the reason why he wrote the chorus the way he did. He planted that there for a reason. He was a genius and was thinking ahead.
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