princesas de disney Most Feminist DP Movie Countdown! día 2: Pick the LEAST Feminist! (Elimination based on comments)

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31 fans picked:
bella durmiente
   29%
aladdín
   29%
blanca nieves y los siete enanos
   23%
mulan
   10%
enredados
   6%
la sirenita
   3%
la bella y la bestia
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Pocahontas
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Princess and the Frog
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 Jessikaroo posted hace más de un año
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Jessikaroo picked aladdín:
10. Cinderella
9. ?

Please try to remove your bias and give concrete reasons to why you choose said movie!

I choose Aladdin because same reasons as before.
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BelleAnastasia picked enredados:
It's between Tangled and Aladdin for me.

As many people explained already, there are a lot of reasons, which put Aladdin as one of the less feminist movies. On the other hand however, I see no feminist message in Tangled as well. It's a story of a girl, who discovers the whole world with the help of a boy. However, nowhere in the story it is mentioned that women are equally capable of doing things like the men. In fact, the whole journey would not have happened if it wasn't for Flynn, Pascal and later on Maximus. Some people of course might argue that Gothel was feminist. She kidnapped and baby and she raised it on her own. Well, kidnapping a baby and raising it is not a feminist act. It's been happening for hundreds of years. Moreover, the act of raising children is typically seen as woman's job.

So, my reason for picking Tangled and not Aladdin is the fact, that Aladdin at least has a strong female lead, who at least attempts to bring equality between the genders.

Also, I know Swanpride will attack me right away for choosing Tangled. I know it's your favorite movie, and you find it hard to believe some people would want to put it low, but I can assure you Swanpride that both Tangled and Aladdin are in my top 3 favorite DP movies. I don't hate Tangled, as you might assume. I'm trying to be objective here.
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Swanpride picked aladdín:
As I already pointed out in my aritcle, Sleeping Beauty is actually the MOST feminist movie, considering that it has a mainly female cast, which has control over the whole plot (please, don't confuse "movie" with "princess"). Plus, it is the only one which passes the Bechtel test easily, considering that the three fairies talks about everything BUT men.
Aladdin has to go! No only is Jasmine the only named female character in the whole movie, she is also a failed action heroine - someone who always says that she can take care of herself, nevertheless she gets rescued by Aladdin no less than three times in the movie! (on the marketplace, when he discovers Jafar's scheme, and at the end). The only thing she is allowed to do is to seduce Jafar - because, you know, that's the only thing woman are competent in. (Sorry, this movie really annoys me). Jasmine is not even the protagonist, she is just the love interest.
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Swanpride picked aladdín:
@BellaAnastasie I think it's too early to fight for Tangled....I will do it in the next rounds...just so much: I don't really care what a movie "tells" us. Aladdin "tells" us a lot...that Jasmine is smart, capable aso. But it "shows" us exactly the opposite. If a Disney movie doesn't adress gender issues with words, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's not feminist - what is shown is much more important.
And, btw, Tangled is NOT my favourite movie - Rapunzel is my favourite princess. That's not the same. (Plus, there are three other princesses I like just as much, the only reason I rank her at all on place one is because it's nearly a requirement at this spot to do a 1-10 ranking)
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princesslullaby picked blanca nieves y los siete enanos:
I don't agree that SB is the most feminist just because there's a lot of females, I don't agree that the fairies are the main characters.

Anyway, here. Gender roles galore.
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AllegroGiocoso picked aladdín:
Or Snow White.
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LightningRed picked aladdín:
I was going to pick Sleeping Beauty because Aurora just slept there, but then, Swanpride's comment got a point. Maleficent is a female, and so is the three fairies. So I pick Aladdin because there's only 1 named woman there, Jasmine, and her character mostly revolves around "getting married to a prince."
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maryksand said:
Just as in the previous poll, not picking anything because of my general issues with the concept of feminism, however, merely adding my two cents.

Jasmine was an undoubtedly strong heroine but by NO means stronger than Rapunzel. Rapunzel was a victim of constant, methodical and systematic verbal abuse and emotional pressure, brainwashed into believing that everything and everyone is a potential threat outside of the tower - which she perceived to be her safe haven although it technically was her prison or "gilded cage", if you will, because the ONLY person she ever interacted with - her fake "mother" Gothel - provided her with this concept and forced it on her effectively considering she was Rapunzel's only source of information. And yet in spite of that Rapunzel manages to hold on to her uniqueness and personal outlook which she was technically not even supposed to develop in the first place or have at all consdering that she had no one besides Gothel to educate or inform her - and as a result, she educates herself to the best of her ability. She paints, creating beautiful art, charts stars and is determined to hold on to EVERY single piece of information about the world (beyond the information that Gothel can provide) she can find - she even somehow manages to form a friendship with a chameleon and keep it HIDDEN from Gothel who strictly condemned the very idea of Rapunzel's communication with the outside world. Rapunzel was aware of her gift and it's value and considering she didn't get to hear anyone elses side of things she entirely trusted Gothel with everything she warned her about people wanting to take her hair for themselves - because technically it made sense, because who wouldn't want to stay young and healthy forever, right? Gothel's narrative was convincing because there actually was a quite valid point she was making even though ironically she was one of those people who wanted Rapunzel's hair for herself. The girl was raised in constant fear of taking a step outside because the outside world was presumably filled with people who wanted to exploit and use her for her powers and on top of that Gothel chose the emotionally abusive tactics of making Rapunzel believe that SHE was unworthy of being a member of a society either because she is supposedly too naive and incapable of handling herself. And that's ALL Rapunzel knows, yet she still immediatelly takes a chance at escaping and pursuing her goal (which had NOTHING to do with a man but with the lanterns) by using the situation - Flynn's attachement to the crown/satchel - in her favour by blackmailing him. The guidance he provides in the very beginning is more of an obstacle than help/support because he continuously tries to scare her back in her tower, however, she, a girl who lived with her perception of the world being a scary and dangerous place, still handles herself admirably in life threatening situation and even gets Flynn out of trouble as well, multiple times. She manages to overcome years of verbal abuse and brainwashing in addition to effectively integrating herself into the society as the movie progresses (doing exactly what she was brainwashed into believing for her entire life that she wasn't capable of) and rulling the entire kindom by the end.

I wouldn't agree that Jasmine couldn't stand up for herself, though, because being unable to avoid physical threats (such as the one on the market place or with Jafar), especially when said threats come from male physical superiority, is not what defines a heroine as "weak". Jasmine clearly established her position regarding the arranged marriage and standed on her own till the end despite the concepts that were forced on her by her own father and society.
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rhythmicmagic picked aladdín:
This movie is full of "Girl gets saved by boy" tropes.
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opalrose picked blanca nieves y los siete enanos:
it has a lot of stereotypes both male and female
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